Another look at Saturday’s quasi-legal blows

As usual with MMA, the TUF 17 Finale was not without controversy. Miesha Tate complained about the ref stoppage in her fight, but the bigger question was whether a knee she took to the face shortly before then was legal or not. I’ve slowed that bitch down to a quarter of its original speed and it’s still hard to tell.

Her hand is coming off the mat right as the knee lands. From the angle we have you can’t tell if the knee has actually connected while she’s grounded. So it comes down to the strike being either barely legal or barely illegal.


In other inconclusive illegal striking, Gabriel Gonzaga is not happy about the way his fight ended with Travis Browne. Here’s what his management told Tatame:

“I need to review it to count how many illegal elbows but Its a fact that it was illegal. I contacted Keith Kizer head of Nevada Athletic Comission and he told me to file a complaint and he would review it. I true believe it was illegal. I never complaint about a losses who knows me know that I handle it good but illegal we can not accept.”

“We appeal to the Nevada State Athletic Commission because we think were the illegal elbows neck. Whenever we had accepted any defeat, but this was illegal.”

Here’s another case with more strange shit happening that falls in between the cracks of the rules. Did Browne hit Gonzaga with a downward elbow to the back of the head? That would be doubly illegal, and it certainly seems like he did. But it also looks like Gonzaga was already out when those strikes came. So what the hell happens then?

There’s precedence going both ways – Jon Jones and Erick Silva have both been disqualified for downward elbows and blows to the back of the head during the final moments of their fights. But Vitor Belfort also wailed on the back of Akiyama’s head and got away with it. The only constants here: what was decided on the night of the fight is what stood on the records. So Gonzaga and Tate can rage all they want, but it’s probably not going to do them any good.

  • mobius

    Along with all the warnings about Tate’s fingers in Cat’s eyes, there was this at the end of round 1:

    https://i.minus.com/ibk3wcojYpepIt.gif

    maybe not illegal, but definitely a bitchy move. Cat’s response made if gif-worthy.

  • roycegretzky

    You’re forgetting the other precedent that was set with Oliveira/Lentz, where the fight result was changed to a no contest because of a particularly egregious illegal knee to a grounded opponent in the lead up to the finish. I think the bigger issue for me is that knees to an opponent that’s standing up but hunched over should be legal anyways but I suppose that’s besides the point.

    Gonzaga has a good case I think…the first one or two were alright but it looks like the one that crumpled him was all back-of-head/neck and then it just proceeds from there. Fuck Travis Browne.

  • Repsol09

    Travis Browne’s fight should be changed to a “No Contest” he clearly struck the back of the head and neck, and it looked 12-6 which is also illegal.

  • Mixed Martial Adam

    It was a pretty sketchy/Illegal win, but the athletic commission would have to admit that they made a mistake for it to be to be turned to a no contest. So unless Browne tests positive for weed, that ain’t going to happen.

  • frickshun

    The Browne elbow was 11-5. Not even fucking close to 12-6. In other news, Gonzaga’s coarse body hair grosses me out. Please fire him.

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