There’s a lot of chatter going on right now about how wrestlers get an unfair advantage with MMA judges because of the scoring power of takedowns and positional control. It seems like getting back up from a takedown doesn’t impress anyone and just gives a wrestler yet another chance to earn even more points off a second ground dragging. Evan Dunham, fresh off a garbage decision loss to Sean Sherk, throws in his two cents on the situation:
FO: It makes you wonder, though: When you get a takedown, how is it scored? What is control? Is it a takedown or sticking and moving?
It’s interesting you ask that question, because I have some strong feelings about the weight of a takedown in the unified rules counting for effective grappling (the same as threatening with submissions and using an active guard) and also for control. It seems that escaping back to your feet or pulling guard should be weighed the same since they are all forcing your opponent to a different location of the fight.
I think that’s right. If you take somebody down for 10 seconds or 5 seconds and they get back up, I think the person that was taken down was able to implement their game the same way the wrestler was to bring the fight to where they have the advantage.
The Sunday Junkie sums it up in this letter that lays it out about as straight-forward as it’s gonna get:
Either standing back up should be rewarded the same way as a takedown, or neither should be worth anything unless damage is done. When an MMA fighter gets the fight to the ground, not only does he get the fight to where he feels he is stronger and can do more damage, he also score points with the judges. But the same doesn’t happen for a striker. He works his way back up to his feet and into his comfort zone, yet he didn’t score anything on the judges’ cards. What he has done is given his opponent an opportunity to score more points with another takedown. If you get the takedown, and I stand back up, it should be a wash. Award points for the change of position – regardless of what it is.
It’s a great idea, but like most proposed judging changes ignores the key problem in this whole situation: commission judges are abject retards and nothing’s gonna get better until qualified people start getting hired and all the morons get fired. In other words, nothings gonna get better.