Big Nog not a fan of training with the gays

According to an interview with Brazil’s UOL Esporte, former PRIDE and UFC heavyweight champion Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira has joined the ranks of the Westboro Baptist Church and the murderers of Matthew Shepard in reviling the scourge that is homosexuality. From the interview:

“I have no prejudice against gays, but I wouldn’t train with someone who’s gay. I have no malice, I don’t take our physical contact as (something) sexual. But what if the gay person has that malice of having physical contact with me, of staying there grappling? I would have no problems having a gay student in my academy, but I would rather not train with him.”

This revelation comes as a surprise, as Nogueira looks pretty happy to be kissed by a man in this photo with Anderson Silva. Judging by the fact that he replaces the word “boner” with “malice” in the quote above, there is most likely some pent-up resentment in play here. Perhaps Nogueira is bitter that he has poor luck with the boys because he looks like the result of Frankenstein mating with an old leather boot. We can only hope that the already-downtrodden Shad Smith does not give up MMA and pursue a new career as a beautician or interior designer after hearing this news.

As for me, I don’t see what the big fucking deal is. In grappling gyms across the world, women put men in their guards all the time, and almost invariably, the parties involved are mature about it. And even though Shad Smith is the only fighter who has come out publicly, let’s not pretend that there aren’t tons of gay grapplers and fighters out there who no one ever notices because they are also able to be mature about things (unlike this guy), and who aren’t comfortable admitting their gayness precisely because of prejudice like this.

Minotauro, you shouldn’t ostracize a fighter just because he happens to like playing the skin flute. That doesn’t mean that he wants to thump a salsa beat on YOUR wrinkly old armadillo shell. Just pull him aside and tell him that if his “malice” starts to pop up, he needs to call a time out and think about something unattractive, like grassy meadows, oceans, or Sean Penn.

  • thingvolds

    lol. here is a guy, quite politely and rationally stating that he’d rather not roll around half naked and sweaty with a gay dude, and people are attacking him.

    meanwhile, every post on the internet about kyra gracie or ronda rousey is about how we’d like to get mounted or triangled by them.

    if you really believe that gay guys and straight guys are the same, youd admit that gay guys are filthy animals consumed with sex, just like us – and therefore its reasonable for a straight dude to have second thoughts about rolling around on the floor with them.

  • Letibleu

  • glassjawsh

    god damn you volds. you’re a complete tool, but you;re undeniably right

  • iamphoenix

    Nog is a fag

  • kvelertak

    Who gives a fuck. Big Nog has the right to his own feelings.

    Fuck off.

  • Redping

    I’m just glad you guys haven’t gone PC like cagepotato and start lecturing Nog for his christian ways. Or did anyone read that article about how Bisping used the word GAY and should apologise and be held accountable? I mean jesus, what a bunch of pussies. The MMA Media is a bunch of whiney cunts,

    That’s why i’m glad Fightlinker exists, even if Jake and Ryan have died or something. You guys are the true cunty gays that MMA needs

  • agentsmith

    Look how Anderson gently cradles that cauliflower-ear… that’s love, right there.

  • CAP

    Schaub needs to start flirting with Nog to throw him off his game. And wear a BIG cup.

    I bet Seth Petruzelli is bummed they outlawed the speedo.

  • dick

    I cleared up my confusion and so now I get to use the real dick account… Yay! But the other account under which I responded to a couple of comments was indeed me (“The Real Dick”) as well.

    thingvolds- When you sign up for a grappling class, you sign up to have extended physical contact with other men. Wouldn’t it be better to know that someone is gay but able to be mature about it in grappling class rather than wonder whether every guy out there could be secretly getting a hardon for you? Because things like Nogueira’s statement are keeping all of them in the closet.

    My point is that people may be attracted to whoever they are attracted to (and they often are), but they are also generally able to be mature about things when they are actually training. People who aren’t mature should be weeded out by people running gyms if they are responsible. It is impossible to try to get people not to be sexually attracted to each other. If we are never supposed to touch anyone who could potentially be sexually attracted to us, we should all live in plastic bubbles.

    I also grapple (I am not EXCLUSIVELY a smartass), and I have trained with quite a few hot girls, some of whom make Kyra Gracie look ugly, but I noticed that I wouldn’t have been able to get it up for them while they were trying to rip my arms off even if I wanted to. It was the farthest thing from my mind, and there is a biological reason for this.

    Fighting is controlled by the sympathetic nervous system, and sexual arousal is controlled by the parasympathetic nervous system. Those two systems shut each other out, so that your body won’t waste energy and focus on reproducing when it faces a threat to its very existence. Therefore, human beings are evolutionarily geared towards being able to compartmentalize the fighting and fucking aspects of our lives.

    Now, that’s not to say that there aren’t some people out there who are sadomasochists (people who derive sexual pleasure from inflicting or receiving pain), but again, if those people let their predilections create an uncomfortable environment for others, the people who run gyms should weed them out.

  • CAP

    *counter argument

    Some bitches like to get choked during buttsex.

  • Letibleu

    They say that between 8% and 10% of men are gay. I am sure he has rolled with a few gay men without knowing it already.

    I understand being uncomfortable rolling with an openly gay guy. Its the dont ask dont tell approach but for jits.

    Should there be all gay classes?

  • agentsmith

    if you really believe that gay guys and straight guys are the same, youd admit that gay guys are filthy animals consumed with sex, just like us – and therefore its reasonable for a straight dude to have second thoughts about rolling around on the floor with them.

    I can’t speak for gays, but one thing that’s all too common among straight guys is to delude themselves into thinking that everyone wants to fuck them… apparently females and males both.  It’s hilarious how homophobes always act like just because a dude is gay that means he’ll try to rape or otherwise molest you.  Odds are you’re not nearly as hot to the homos as you think you are.

    And anyone who says Nog isn’t being a homophobe here is full of shit.  Read the last sentence in his quote above but replace “gay” with “black” and then try to tell me with a straight face that it’s not racist.  Of course it would be, so of course it’s homophobic.

  • G Funk

    Dick got annoying quick.

  • DJ ThunderElbows

    He’s never around when Pewnt is … also he’s right.  I’ve just come to expect all you MMA fans and -definitely the fighters- are homophobic bitches to varying degrees, so I don’t really care.

  • agentsmith

    ^ If a woman doesn’t want to be in a “sexually compromising position” with a man, then she’d better not do BJJ with a guy.  Ever.  Cause that’s just gonna happen.

  • glassjawsh

    no one here would think twice about a woman not wanting to be in a sexually compromising position with a man (ie. rolling with a dude that kept poking her with his boner) so why is it such a big deal when i dude comes out and says the same thing?

    sometimes people PC themselves out of common sense

    edit: read dick’s rebuttal (haha…) and i see g funk’s point

  • glassjawsh

    ^ semantics

  • CAP

    Rhonda Rousey would slap you in a triangle and fart in your face. SCHWING!!

  • dick

    thingvolds- although the logical part of your brain knows that it’s not REALLY in danger when training, the logical part of your brain is layered on top of your more primitive brain and has a lot less influence on your physiology than the primitive brain does. Training still excites the sympathetic nervous system because your body is still doing all the things that it would when it is really in danger, and the emotional anxiety can be very real when a guy is trying to save face but realizes that he’s about to be submitted by a girl.

    glassjawsh- the entire point is that when you’re grappling, anyone could be attracted to the other person in a normal situation, but part of belonging to a grappling school is learning to put those feelings on the shelf for the time being and focus on training. As I said before, those who can’t do that really should not be training, because they’re not really there to train.

    If people like thingvolds choose to reduce all women to the status of objects, it’s certainly a reflection on him, but it doesn’t mean that other people can’t take a grappling seminar with Kyra Gracie and, you know, actually LEARN something. You might be surprised to find out that not everyone is as much of a general pig as you are.

    And yes, I agree that I am a very annoying individual. Sorry if this discussion was not base enough for some of you. For those people: poop ass shit cock bitch fuck donkeyballs.

  • Letibleu

    Someone should get Hermes Franca’s opinion. Oh wait…

  • frickshun

    I’m officially a DICK fan. I like the new writer as well.

  • nem0

    Now Nog knows what it’s like to roll against straight guys who’ve made it clear they would rather be practicing naked with you, and in fact would try to do so if no one else was around.

    On the other hand, being gay does not equal wanting to fuck everything that moves, any more than being straight means the opposite.

    Blah blah repeating the same points made earlier blah lesbian joke.

  • G Funk

    Richard, your recent comments aren’t irritating because of your compulsory intellectually sharp script. It just reeks of tight ass’d, high-nosed newb cock(dick).

  • thingvolds

    “If people like thingvolds choose to reduce all women to the status of objects, it’s certainly a reflection on him, but it doesn’t mean that other people can’t take a grappling seminar with Kyra Gracie and, you know, actually LEARN something. You might be surprised to find out that not everyone is as much of a general pig as you are.”

    listen. ive trained with gay men, lesbians and hot bitches. im a renzo affiliate guy, so i see kyra a couple times a year at least. also, weve taken trips to ralphs and fairtex where there are guys who dont care if you know they suck cock or not.

    because you desperately want something to be true or untrue in accordance with your delusional pc beliefs, doesnt make it so. like i said, most guys can be totally respectful training with a hot girl. but in the locker room or before the session, i promise you its being talked about. and unless you think gay men are somehow morally or otherwise superior to straight men, theyre thinking the same things. im not saying a gay dude training with a straight guy or a straight guy training with a hot girl is like a lap dance to them. but at some point the thought is absolutely positively there. i dont see minotauro accusing gay men of blowing loads when they roll with him. hes just saying hes not comfortable with it.

    the real problem you have is you dont like his christian beliefs, which is fine. but dont pretend your religion (modern liberalism) is better and smarter than his (christianity). its not.

  • CAP

    ^Nice.  However some fanboys would most certainly blow a load rolling with Minotauro.

     

  • agentsmith

    So now NOT being a Christian homophobe is in itself a religion?  Goddammit.

  • dick

    Thingvolds- First of all, let me say that I will never, ever, ever post my rank or school on fightlinker because I wish to make fun of everyone equally. But even if I did, I would not choose to bandy about my “status” in the grappling world in order to justify disrespecting women. I have been since 2002, and I can say without any shadow of a doubt that your “promises” that people say disrespectful things about women while they are in locker rooms are based on false information.

    You have not been in every locker room, and you may be influencing how things go in your own locker room with your own bad behavior. I linked to an article about confirmation bias in one of my fight linker posts; you should read up on that. Just because you see women as objects does not mean that everyone else sees them that way all the time. It just means that you’re a pig. If you think that women are immaturely sexualized in every gym’s locker room all the time, you are quite simply out of your mind.

    I DARE you to walk into the locker room at Renzo Gracie Academy, say a bunch of really raunchy shit about Kyra, and see what happens. I guarantee that at the very least, you wouldn’t be training there again. There may be some relatively low-rung places that allow that kind of thing to go on, but gyms that run a good business have a vested interest in creating and maintaining a respectful environment.

    Also, saying that Christianity commands you to hate fags is like saying that being a Jew requires you to stone women who commit adultery, or that being a muslim obligates you to be a terrorist.

    The simple fact of the matter is that if a gay guy has the hots for you, he’s going to be turned on whether he touches you or just watches you grapple with other guys. He’s probably going to go home and jerk off (or worse) thinking about you either way, so what’s the difference? You might as well go and check into therapy as a rape victim because judging by who you hang around, a bunch of gay guys have probably already raped you with their minds.

  • Letibleu

    Dick, volds is THE hogwatcher, he has been to every locker room. He is also the resident FL troll. He is pretty good at it. Ask him something political about Obama and Libya or something

  • dick

    Wow, I didn’t know what a hogwatcher was until just now. I looked up some pictorials about it online and my mommy got mad at me. Thanks a lot.

  • DJ ThunderElbows

    Oh and he loves black dudes talking to his wimmens.

  • glassjawsh

    derp

  • glassjawsh

    cap made me laul. an atta boy to you sir

    penisberg – the fuck did you get the part about nog hating fags? and even if he did, the fuck did you get the part about christianity telling him to do so??

    keep feeding the volds troll though. he;s actually entertaining when he;s not yammering on about politics and conspiracy theory

  • thingvolds

    you seem upset?

    “Thingvolds- First of all, let me say that I will never, ever, ever post my rank or school on fightlinker because I wish to make fun of everyone equally. But even if I did, I would not choose to bandy about my “status” in the grappling world in order to justify disrespecting women. I have been since 2002, and I can say without any shadow of a doubt that your “promises” that people say disrespectful things about women while they are in locker rooms are based on false information.”

    i stated where i train because it is relevant to the discussion. ive been in those locker rooms and ive been at those seminars. im telling you, guys talk about that. not every guy of course, but its common. and obviously it doesnt happen at the nyc school as openly. people there train with her every day. many people there see her as a sister. its not going to be acceptable locker room talk. instead guys most likely just go home and beat off to the memory of being in her guard. if you want to tell me im lying and that ive never actually heard that kind of talk go on, thats fine. i mean, if i tell you that the sky is blue and you say “no its not, its yellow with purple stripes”, theres not much i can do. also, other than me using the term “bitches” once, im not sure why youre accusing me of disrespecting women or trying to justify disrespecting women.

    “you may be influencing how things go in your own locker room with your own bad behavior.”

    i never said i behave like that personally.

    “Also, saying that Christianity commands you to hate fags”

    i never said anything about hate or used the term “fag”.

    i thought your post was well written and thought provoking. however, i do disagree with it, and think youre misguided. im not sure why youre attacking me.

  • thingvolds

    “Fighting is controlled by the sympathetic nervous system, and sexual arousal is controlled by the parasympathetic nervous system. Those two systems shut each other out, so that your body won’t waste energy and focus on reproducing when it faces a threat to its very existence. Therefore, human beings are evolutionarily geared towards being able to compartmentalize the fighting and fucking aspects of our lives.”

    training isnt fighting, especially rolling. theres very little risk of being seriously injured unless youre sparring with hector lombard. your brain isnt shutting off that much because you know that the person your going with is a training partner, not an enemy. you know the entire time all you have to do is tap and whatever situation youre in is over. its not a gun fight.

    i agree that most guys are mature enough to roll with a hot chick and be respectful about it. but i promise you, after kyra does a seminar at a school, dudes are joking about having her crotch in their face in the locker room.

  • G Funk

    Dick, you should brush up and take Fightlinker forums 101 and get to know the kids at the new school. Could save you some time and fluster. Though the blind meet & greet is entertaining.

  • frickshun

    I will fuck all of you. With my dick.

  • iamphoenix

    Dick seems totally gay. Those stories about the gays controlling their boners during training is about himself controlling his gay boner. Dick is le gay hahaha

  • DJ ThunderElbows

    Fenix, yYou’re just saying that because you’ve been rolling with Koreans. Once you roll with Amurrican men again, your pants will be filled to bursting with malice.

  • CAP

  • G Funk

    ^ GAy

  • Letibleu

    You saying Michael was gay or popcorn turned him white?

  • CAP

    No. THIS. Is gay.

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