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Chris Leben was taking the good stuff

There hasn’t been a whole lot of news about the Chris Leben drug suspension, partially because Chris Leben failing drug tests is barely news anymore and partially because painkiller addiction is kinda a taboo subject. Here’s Dr Johnny Benjamin talking with Mauro Ranallo about what exactly Chris was taking and what it means:

“The common names for those medications (that he got busted for) are Percosets and Dilaudid. These are some of the strongest and most addictive narcotic pain relievers that are on the market. They are derivatives of the Oxycontins and so on and so forth. Here in South Florida where I live, it’s wrecking havoc in this place. The problem is just that — their addictive potential is just off the charts.

“I read all the blog sites and everybody’s all caught up, is it a performance enhancer? It’s a banned substance, it’s not a performance-enhancing substance list, it’s a banned substance list. And this is a place where sports in general and MMA in specific are trying to look out for the well being of the fighters because getting on this type of medication, as anybody will tell you, is very, very, very hard to get off. I don’t call these types of medications, the opiates, the narcotics, the Dilaudids, performance enhancers. I call them performance enablers.”

“But if you need as something as strong as Dilaudid which we give to terminal cancer patients when you know they’re not going to live and you just want to make them comfortable at all costs, when you’re getting into that sort of thing then everybody needs to step back and say, hey, this is a sport. What we really need to talk about is the quality of your life and what’s going on.

Holy shit. Holy shit. Holy shit.

  • agentsmith

    How to they compare to heroin?

  • iamphoenix

    summed up pretty well at the end there

  • DJ ThunderElbows

    He looked pretty fucked up as far as his mobility – I dunno if that’s the drugs or possibly the back or joint pain he was taking it for.

  • glassjawsh

    should’ve just stuck with being an alcoholic

  • repenttokyo

    it’s a drug they started prescribing after heroin disappeared from medical practice.

  • scissors61

    I’d pay good money to watch an episode of “Intervention” where Dana, Lorenzo, Josh Koscheck and Bobby Southworth try to save Chris from his pill habit. Stephan Bonnar can mediate.

  • nem0

    They also give dilaudid to people with major post op pain, and for chronic pain. Ditto oxy. There’s a place for painkillers in medicine — it’s called PAIN MANAGEMENT. Though I forget how long that shit stays in your system, so it’s hard to say whether he was high in the cage or just took something stronger than Advil sometime prior to the fight.

    Not saying Leben’s not abusing, since it’s likely, between his previous substance abuse record and the damage that training and fighting cause. It’s just that I’m sick of people being all OOOH SHIT, OPIATES WILL MAKE YOU INTO A DRUG ADDICTED CRIMINAL IF YOU SO MUCH AS LOOK AT THEM.

  • fightlinker

    I dunno, when you fail a post fight drug test because you couldn’t NOT take those painkillers, I’d say that’s a sign he’s doing more than just looking at em. But a very fair point

  • nem0

    Oh yeah, no doubt he was using them, or he wouldn’t have pissed dirty. I’m kind of surprised it doesn’t happen more often in MMA.

  • DJ ThunderElbows

    We need our resident junkie; assuming he’s not dead already, where’s angryChina to clarify some of this?

  • fightlinker

    LOL. He’s always trying to get me to drink poppy tea. I tell him I have enough trouble handling my weed internet and jerking off addictions

  • Night Rider

    Ryan I’m calling you out, you’ve posted in here twice so we know you’ll see this, don’t be scared homie, just be real.

     

    Where the fuck is the podcast, Do I have to step up with subo and make one myself for fucks sake.

     

    P.S. I still love you, otherwise I would have given up on this shit.

  • kvelertak

    It didn’t help him win… just like it didn’t help sonnen win.

  • Jarman

    Ok, I’ll weigh in as a substitute junkie…
    https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10150535636480150.647172.762610149&type=1&l=29b2146c4d

    yeah, that’s what I did to my kneecap….broke that fucker in two. I was receiving a 12-hour time release hydromorphine, and a dilaudid, fast acting every 3-4 hours in hospital. I was discharged with a week’s worth ‘scrip for dilaudid hydromorphine (didn’t fill), and had a friend who had surplus oxy’s and percs to help me along. The level of pain they covered, what I needed them for, was strictly when i could still feel the five screws they drilled into my patella. To be in as much pain as to require them to fight would be a cutndry situation of not being able to fight. My guess is he was a little hooked, had a few left over, took one to ‘settle down’, cause you do get a bit antsy comin off.

  • Redping

    wow, what a stupid comparison between painkiller addiction and failing to prescribe the TRT that all of the hall-of-famers are on. kvelertak must be a big anderson fan to say something that retarded

  • thingvolds

    “The common names for those medications (that he got busted for) are Percosets and Dilaudid. These are some of the strongest and most addictive narcotic pain relievers that are on the market. ”

    he’s exaggerating. percocets are oxy’s with usually much less opiate, and loaded down with tylenol. you can get 80mg of straight opiate with oxys in one pill. even a 20mg oxy is four times as strong as the most common percocet dose, and is not loaded down with tylenol.

    dilaudid is not a popularly abused opiate like he is suggesting, its a wannabe morphine. its good to ease pain when in the hospital through an IV, but no one is going to a crooked dr asking for dilaudid specifically.

    leben is obviously messed up, and the ufc has knowingly promoted that and benefited from it.

  • Reverend Clint

    volds would know

  • P W

    The man whose fighting strategy basically boils down to letting his opponents work him like a heavy bag until they punch themselves tired and then try to finish them off (not unlike Homer Simpson’s approach to boxing) has a serious love for painkillers? Who could’ve guessed?

  • CAP

    Something sure seemed up with him in that last fight he looked like zombie dog shit

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