predictably, military enlistments have skyrocketed since Ubama decided to play his trump card and take Usama off ice
just like after 9/11 when we were told afghanistan was responsible for 9/11 (turned out to be a lie)
just like when we were told saddam had WMDs and supported the taliban (turned out to be a lie)
just like when NFL player pat tilman became a ranger ostensibly to fight terrorism, then was killed by enemy gunfire (turned out to be a lie)
just like when private jessica lynch fought bravely and heroically against iraqi forces but was captured then saved (turned out to be a lie)
the sheep are signing up to be cannon fodder for the monetary interests of the elite who look at them as worthless, ignorant pawns
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110516/ap_on_re_us/us_navy_seal_mania
the propaganda machine is in full gear
the best thing we could hope for right now would be congress proposing and the president signing into action compulsory military service for all able bodied americans of age
maybe then the sheep would care enough to actually look analytically at our militarys endevours, and question them
when a poor, uneducated trailer trash, ghetto black or mexican is sent to be slaughtered, no one cares. “well, its their job, they signed up for it”
maybe when a middle or upper class kid gets drafted to fight a bogus, unjust war, people will finally have to take notice of whats going on, and make a stand
http://i55.tinypic.com/2e2jm9h.png
and you’re point is? young kids are naive? Who cares tell me something i don’t know. I’m in the army and you’d be suprised how many people enlist buying the bullshit in the ads and thinking that they will magically be transformed into something they are not.
being poor has always been the biggest reason people join any military, voluntarily.So maybe if you dont like it some much spend less on tinfoil hats and more on poor youths. oh wait republicans only help rich whites.
Besides you know when else there was a huge jump in new recruits? After Pearl Harbor… can you blame them?
im not repulican.
Volds–>I hate conspiracy theorists (who do you decide is telling the truth, asshole??) but I agree with you in spirit.
I consider most of the Jackals to be fairly intelligent so I don’t know why people want to argue about this.
DrunkenJunk–>thanks for your input. Probably the most valuable thing anyone has said about this topic in a while.
“oh wait republicans only help rich whites.” Just plain not true. Those evil corporations and brainwashing ass bag religious groups donate/provide more charity/money/support than any other group. And that’s how it should be, private charity, not forced taxes.
what are you then thing? Libertarian?
but that will exclude any groups church people dont think deserve their help. its selective and how much of that moeny is actually put towards good and not just giving bibles away or trying to convert gays
Sigh.
The Taliban sheltered bin Laden after 9/11, claiming that Islamic customs would not allow them to expel a guest. Lie?
And I actually don’t ever think they said Saddam supported the Taliban.
so what. the army is actually trying to get rid of a lot of motherfuckers.
at 18 my dumbass joined the marine corps becuase I wanted to be like james bond (there were other reasons too). but it was just before 9/11. at 18 who doesn’t want to see if they can be a badass seal team six member? that age is about testing your limits. fuck that noise now though.
overall I think that I made a good decision. but I take advantage of the benefits. too many don’t
can’t we just argue over alistair penis?
whats to argue… you are what you eat
“The Taliban sheltered bin Laden after 9/11, claiming that Islamic customs would not allow them to expel a guest. Lie?”
yes, basically. a plan to invade afghanistan was made in the 90s under clinton, long before 9/11. the us was already conducting missle strikes against the taliban in the late 90s. stopping resistance to the trans-afghanistan pipeline through possible “regime change” was at the top of bush’s to do list going into his first term. 9/11 allowed him to do that and much more under the guise of fighting terrorism.
http://www.ringnebula.com/Oil/Maresca_testimony_USHouse_1998.htm
“And I actually don’t ever think they said Saddam supported the Taliban.”
they repeatedly tried to connect saddam with al qaeda and the taliban. the evidence never surfaced, but they managed to shift public sentiment in their favor just by making statements that the connection existed. bush, cheney and condi are all on record trying to connect saddam to al qaeda and or the taliban. surely you remember the claim that saddam was seen in prague meeting with a senior al qaeda official? that bit of bogus info was enough to get the flag waving sheeple all in a tizzy. also the main reason they told us to worry about saddams alleged WMD program was the possibility he would supply “the terrorists” with weapons such as a dirty bomb.
http://www.acousticrock.com/election/election.php
I thought about enlisting after 911. Then I started thinking about paintball and how many times I’ve been peeled in the mask by people who are nowhere near as skilled as a trained killer. Then my chicken shit side kicked in. I have to hand it to the people who actually enlist to serve our country. Seriously peepeehaser…..not everyone can do what you do….and I don’t just mean drawing and mashing Korean mud cleat. Thank you.
So do you guys feed the stray cats and racoons in your hood?
As to the pipeline: I was reading Gore Vidal, like, within months of 9/11. I know about Unocal and Karzai and all that shit. Where’s the pipeline? What’s the hold-up? Bush and Cheney just didn’t happen to prioritize that part?
Yes – the Prague meeting was completely and utterly fabricated. But the Taliban is a separate entity, and the last bastards in charge didn’t breathe a word about them (other than bragging about how quickly they “took” Kandahar and Kabul) or Mullah Omar (/also in Pakistan) when building the case against Saddam. It was all al Qaeda – they sell better and don’t remind people of Afghanistan when you’re trying to sell a different war.
your welcome omo.
since my “ubama beating war drums for pakistan escalation, scary” thread seems to have been frozen, ill post this here
ron paul on msnbc this morning, stating he believes the us will try to occupy pakistan soon
well
well
well.
good to know ron paul reads my fightlinker threads
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3036789/ns/msnbc_tv-morning_joe#43075717
“i think that’s the next occupation, and i fear it. i think it’s ridiculous, and i think our foreign policy is such we don’t need to be doing this. so when i talk about doing it differently, i talk about in the context of our foreign policy and not in the fact of whether or not we should have gotten him. as a matter of fact, i voted for the first authority. i think what’s the real tragedy is that we didn’t get him ten years ago when we could have should have. but we now have spent $1 trillion. we’ve lost 5,000 people, our soldiers, in fighting two wars that had nothing to do with bin laden. and to me, we have to reassess the foreign policy just like we have to reassess our economic policies here.
>> congressman, it’s willie geist. i just want to follow up on something you said a minute ago, that you suspect pakistan will be the place the united states occupies next. do you have information on that? that implies some sort of invasion? why do you say that?
>> no. just because i look at what has happened in the past 30 or 40 years of all the unintended consequences and what we have done and how we i hope i’m absolutely wrong — but i’m afraid we will be in pakistan trying to occupy that country, and it will probably be very unsuccessful.
Ron Paul: “This is what I think”
Journalist: “Do you have any information to back that up?”
Ron Paul: “No”
the world is ending may 21. i’m getting beamed up to heaven. what about you guys. probably won’t because my pants are 500 dollar deloreans. the bible guarantees i will be saved, you on the other hand will be the opposite of saved along with ubama.
hes a 20 year senator who serves on the house committee on foreign affairs. he is also the man whose stance on our last two occupations has gained him millions of supporters and made him the biggest threat to ubamas re-election. only a fool would disregard his opinion on this matter.
oh wait
Ciao
I made my kids both rob banks today so they wouldn’t get it. HA HA!!!! They’re staying with me!!Eat it Jesus!!
Phoenigga–>Do you hafta run 88 mph for the pants to kick in??
All I know is that I was rather disappointed with the “situation room”.
in other news, did you see the cool dogs the seals work with?
please ignore that we were told nothing but false info for days about the obl raid, and still have no proof of his death other than the word of professional liars
please ignore that the situation room photo turned out to be nothing but propaganda
please forget that the nobel prize winner ubama invaded libya and attempted to illegally assasinate a head of state there
please ignore that the ubama administration is dropping hints left and right about a escalation of conflict with pakistan
just read 25 fucking more articles about the cool dogs youll get to work with if you join the navy
stop thinking so much, thats what we elected ubama for
everything is fine
hope and change
everything obama says is shady as fuck. I think its just as likely this dude has been dead for a few years and obama was saving this to kick start his reelection campaign. I really don’t think he could invade libya/pakistan nobody wants another 10 years war, that involves going to war w/ a group of people or idea and not a specific country.
yeah Penix, Do you have the future version that runs on garbage & flies? Or are you wearing the throwbacks?
well well well.
escalation of conflict with pakistan is indeed coming
could it be that the us military has taken to bombing pakistani women and children by “mistake” in order to provoke a response that will justify occupation?
AFP
May 30, 2011
Afghan President Hamid Karzai called on the US military on Sunday to avoid operations that kill civilians, saying it was his “last warning” to Washington after 14 people allegedly died in an air strike.
Reacting to the alleged deaths of 10 children, two women and two men in an air strike on Saturday in the southern province of Helmand, Karzai said such incidents were “murdering of Afghanistan’s children and women.”
“The president called this incident a great mistake and the murdering of Afghanistan’s children and women, and on behalf of the Afghan people gives his last warning to the US troops and US officials in this regard,” his office said, adding that he “strongly condemned” the killings.
Citing initial “reports and heartrending pictures published on media” Karzai’s office said 10 children, two women and two men were killed in the raid.
Karzai has given that last warning 500 times.
Obama will be reelected by a healthy margin.
And Ron Paul is NOT A SENATOR.
“biggest threat to his re-election”
LOL. Obama would beat Paul worse than he’d beat Palin – 20 point spread at least. I knew you were a Paultard. Shouldn’t you be posting links to Goldine or something?
ron paul is nuts… not as bad as his son though
I dig how hogwatcher started talking about the US bombing Pakistanis, then copy-pasted an article that doesn’t even mention Pakistan. Keep your bullshit straight, dummy.
his troll powers are slipping
besides they are both should be renamed trashcanistan
posted the wrong story let me find the correct one