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Kenny heard that shit, Melvin

“You want a piece of this, blondie?!”

If you thought Melvin Guillard’s typically modest and self-deprecating statements after smoking Evan Duham last weekend were eyeroll worthy, he was talking that kind of shit even before scoring the highest-profile win of his career.  He made the rounds on a few internet radio shows in the weeks prior, including “Pro MMA Radio” where he had some things to say about Dunham’s originally-planned opponent, perennial contender Kenny Florian.  Well guess who was on the same show this week? That’s right, Mr. Florian.

Since I’m a for-reals blogger now (or whatever we call ourselves around here), I made myself actually listen to the show rather than just copy-pasting a transcript from another site.  Journalism is hard! It’s an okay podcast once you get past the awful monster-truck-announcer intros, shitty supplement ads, the host’s tendency to talk at/over his guests, and the audio that sounds like even he’s calling in to his own show.  Anyway, he played a clip for Kenny where Melvin said:

“Them giving me the Dunham fight was a blessing in disguise, and I also feel that that fight was more deserving to me anyway.  I felt I should have been in that spot before Kenny Florian.  Kenny Florian had his shot, he had his chance, he had several chances, and he’s blown it.  Let some of us other 55’ers have our chance, we work just as hard as those guys, why should those guys always get the title shot?”

It’s an opinion that I’m sure many fighters and fans share, and it’s certainly not as provoking as when he said on CagePotato’s “Bum Rush” show that Florian isn’t a top contender anymore and would be “a pretty easy fight for me.”  But it was enough to make even Kenny’s well-practiced TV-voice sound just a wee bit pissed as he laid down a measured rant in response.

“It doesn’t really make sense.  It’s about who the best fighter is.  It’s not about someone’s working hard, there’s a lot of guys working hard.  I was working hard before, but I didn’t get a shot before.  It’s nothing to do with that, it’s who the best fighter is.  If Melvin thinks he deserves a shot over me, then he should fight me and beat me.  It’s not about that.  I’ve lost twice for the belt, once very early on, maybe I had four fights in the UFC at the time, maybe less, three fights in the UFC, and I got a shot early on.  I got another shot against BJ which I didn’t obviously win.  But it’s always about who the best fighter is.  I feel that as far as Melvin’s concerned, who has he beaten?  What has he done to deserve the shot, the main event?  This last fight, finally, after beating Evan Dunham, yeah he deserves it.  That’s great that he’s finally considered a top contender, but he wasn’t considered a top contender before.  You have to beat name guys, you have to beat world-class guys.  Losing to Joe Stevenson in the first round in a minute isn’t gonna get you that shot.  Losing to Nate Diaz by guillotine choke early on isn’t gonna get you that shot.  You have to be consistent.  Melvin’s not losing to the top of the division like I am, he’s losing to guys that are middle of the pack.  He has to separate himself from the pack, and finally he’s done it against Evan Dunham.  If he feels I don’t deserve it, knock me out the division, give me another loss, let’s do that.”

While Kenny allows that Guillard has now proven himself as a contender with the Dunham win, hearing this kind of stuff from Melvin and others “makes my blood boil.”  Not only would he take the Guillard fight, he’ll face “anybody and everybody who’s very good,” including Anthony Pettis, George Sotiropoulos, and Jim Miller.

Florian also talked about how featherweight champ Jose Aldo turned down a fight with him, apparently on the basis that he’s never been the champion.  When asked if he thought that was an odd reason, Kenny showed why he’s an analyst for ESPN when he dropped this truth-bomb:

“For his first fight at ’55, I think it would’ve been a tough fight for me, and there would’ve been a lot on the table for him to lose, because he’s going against a guy who just lost to Gray Maynard… and it would’ve been a tough style matchup for him as well, I think.  I think they were probably looking for Frankie, because he’s a little bit smaller 55’er, and he has nothing to lose if he fights Frankie Edgar.  If he fights the ’55 champ, well the guy’s the champ at ’55, he has nothing to lose.  If he loses to me, he looks bad.”

With Florian healing well from his knee injury and about to restart training soon, he could be ready to hit the cage in late spring or early summer… about the same time as Melvin would likely be up for his next fight.  So did Melvin Guillard just talk himself into a match with a top contender?  He very well might have, and why not?  That fight makes sense for both of them, despite what Melvin and his ego thinks.

  • frickshun

    Smith–>you might be my new fave writer. FUCKING FAGGOT.

  • Billytk

    Melvins response:

    “I’ve got mad respect for Kenny. He’s a good friend. I talk to him all the time. There’s no animosity, but of course he’s going to feel like that when I’m on top right now. He’s had his shot. He’s had two chances to be a champion, he didn’t make it.”
    “Now him asking to fight me? He’s only doing that because he’s in the shadows and nobody’s talking about him. He’s not in the spotlight. …Honestly at this point in my career, and me and my agent already agreed on it, I’m not going to get anything out of beating Kenny Florian.”
    “I’m looking for a No. 1 contender or I want a champion. That’s all I want right now. If I have to take another stepping stone and Kenny wants to throw himself in there, I promise you if that fight happens, I’m going to [expletive] him up and I’m going to make it impressive.”

    I have to agree with Melvin, Kenny’s not what he was once thought to be like Dana said (man it hurts to admit Dana has a point lol) Kenny has shown he can’t win the big ones whether it’s a title shot or a number 1 contender match he’s all hype and has shown he’ll never move to the top of the heap.

  • agentsmith

    Thanks Billy, I just saw that and was going to tack it on the end as an update.

  • frickshun

    The “friends” angle is funny. I have a bunch of “friends” that I play with/against in beach volleyball (doubles). As soon as someone says they’re better than someone else…..friendship is out the window & serious, angry shit-talking ensues.

  • FiveBoltMain

    Melvin is going to wreck Kenny. Kenny doesn’t like wrestlers (see Maynard fight) and Melvin is a pretty good wrestler. Not only that, but he hits like a freight train.

  • CAP

    This is turning into a fight I’d like to see. Melvin will shit talk anybody. He can’t help himself. If Jackson can clean up his ground game he could be a terror at 155.

  • frickshun

    Butters–>stop drinking the Kool-Aid. Melvin is NOT a “pretty good” rassler.

  • glassjawsh

    ^ this

  • DJ ThunderElbows

    He’s got excellent balance while grappling which is something Kenny doesn’t have. Plus the hips and the striking power. But Kenny has accuracy, technique and combos.

  • Reem.Hadouken

    Lulz. kenneh got clowned. Being a ufc Shill only gets you so far.

  • Trossi3389


    If it wasnt for kenny getting hurt he would have never got that fight.. so melvin actually gained 2 stepping stones from that win.. this is the real reason he won’t fight kenny… nothing in it for him.. but in reality both are B-Leval fighters that imo will never get that belt so best to do it…. its getting attention which is HUGE for them.

    Newbie poster but long time viewer… love the site.

  • agentsmith

    There’s nothing in it for Melvin to fight Kenny?  Whatever.  Florian’s been a top-ranked guy for years now, while Dunham is a relative newcomer who probably didn’t deserve all the hype he was getting.  If you don’t think Florian is a definite step up from Dunham, I don’t know what to tell you.

  • SST

    I’d like to see his ground game tested by putting him up against Jim Miller or Bocek, before he gets anywhere near Edgar/Maynard. That’s the thing about blacks, they’re good at talking and hyping fights.

  • CAP

    ^He’s explosive.

  • Nachtfalter

    Guillard is obviously improving and with his power and speed has the potential to knock out any lightweight on the planet, but he’s also an egotistical idiot who is nowhere near being even a top 5 lightweight. If you ask me (and I realize no one has), he deserved to lose both the fight against Gleison Tibau and the snorefest against Jeremy Stephens on points (although I admit I scored the Stephens fight for him on first view, too) – that would make him 3-3 in his last six fights which isn’t exactly the track record of a top contender.

    Melvin’s good when he’s on, but he has done nothing to convince me he’s not still the absurdly stupid moron that jumped into a Nate Diaz guillotine like a suicidal Lemming (is that redundant?) or the borderline retarded flake who lost to Joe Stevenson in less than thirty seconds shortly after having a little cocaine bender. And him saying that he’s got nothing to gain by fighting Kenny f’n Florian only goes to demonstrate that he is both delusional and a moron. To his credit, it does seem like he’s gotten more responsible in his personal life and I would trust that something like the positive cocaine test isn’t going to happen again, but in the cage I’m still skeptical – Greg Jackson or not.

  • DJ ThunderElbows

    I saw his Kenny remark as more – ‘he’s coming off a loss, and he’ll beat me, which’ll kill my contender momentum.’

  • bosswell

    Kenny will murder Guillard. EVERYONE has beaten Guillard. Really, who’s beaten Kenny? BJ Penn, Grey Maynard, Diego, and Drew Ficket. Guillard hasn’t even fought anyone of that quality, and he’s still lost half his fights.

  • DJ ThunderElbows

    Guillard hasn’t even fought anyone of that quality, and he’s still lost half his fights.

    You need to take your common sense the fuck outside.

  • Reem.Hadouken

    But but kenny isnt black and knocking people out!

  • subo

    Guillard is 27-8 according to Wikipedia.  How is that losing half of his fights?

    CAP – That kind of already happened.  It’s just a question of how far he can go now.

  • DJ ThunderElbows

    Subes, I think he’s talkin about UFC fights.  You know, the only ones that matter?  There he’s lost four, and beaten a bunch of cans.  This is probably his first legit win.

  • Reverend Clint

    he’s 10-4 in the UFC with stellar wins over ga(y)be ruediger, Ronny Torres, Wayne Lowe, rick Davis. he’s lost to Nate Diaz, Schmo Daddy, Rich Fucking Clemente and Josh Neer(ly)

  • DJ ThunderElbows

    The wins were spectacular, but boards don’t hit back. Remember Lowe, the school teacher who came out to “Hallelujah?” That shit was amazing. Looked like he got hit in side of the mouth by a shotgun on Jupiter.