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Matt Serra is NOT #2

I’m so sick of seeing rankings that place Matt Serra up at #2 or #1 based on the fact that “he’s the champion” and “he beat Georges St Pierre”. Let’s be honest here: 49 times out of 50, Georges St Pierre will beat Matt Serra. In fact, looking at MMAWeekly’s welterweight top 10 list, I see several other welterweights who would no doubt be heavy favorites with the bookies if Serra was to fight them: Jon Fitch, Matt Hughes, Karo Parisyan, Jake Shields, Diego Sanchez. Fuck, I bet even Josh Koscheck would be favored over Serra.

Here’s how you can tell that Serra’s ranking is way out of proportion: where do you think he’s going to drop to when he loses to GSP at UFC83? It will be an instant drop down to 7th or 8th place on most lists. Past that I’m sure some people will allow him the honor of losing to Matt Hughes afterwards before they drop him off the top 10 list completely.

Hey, I understand that rankings are generally full of shit and all that. There’s certain rules regarding champions for the UFC needing to sit up at the top of the list for appearances’ sake. But Matt Serra ain’t number 2. He ain’t even number 3, 4, 5, or 6 either. He’s just a guy who landed a good punch. That might have made him the champion for now but don’t let it delude you into thinking he deserves a spot up at the top.

  • Atom

    Hey.. I read the comic.. I get it. YOU LOVE GSP, and no one can beat him more than 1 out of 10 times.

    You can testicle embrace with the best of ‘em.

  • kermit.01

    I disagree, honestly you can’t rank a fighter on what might, or is likely to happen if he were to meet someone 49 more times. You can only rank him by what he has done, and luck shot or not he beat GSP. Until they meet again its only speculation that he’d lose 49 out of 50 times. What if GSP gets caught again? Would you then say he was lucky twice and GSP would win 48 out of 50? Or would you finally say Serra deserves the nuber 1 slot?

  • Krazytrain33

    I couldn’t agree more fightlinker. It is almost as bad as Frank Shamrock saying he is the p4p champion best fighter in the world. You might as well do a story on that while you are on a roll.

  • ilostmydog

    Agree with Kermit. Rankings are based on actual results, not what you think might happen 49 times out of 50.

    And since when did Serra just land ‘a good punch.’ It was a sustained assault and multiple punches that GSP tried and could not recover from. It wasn’t exactly a flash KO.

  • dulljake

    MMA is unique as in “defeating a champion does not make you the best fighter”. It sounds counter-intuitive, but it’s true. An octagon isn’t a controlled environment. There are so many factors to consider, that it’s silly to give ranking on basically one fight. You have to look at the fighter in his entirety, on the merit of all of his fights. Honestly, Serra hasn’t had enough impressive wins to merit this ranking.

  • Mike_N

    Oh, God: GSP just got the SUPER-STRONG Fightlinker endorsement, which means he’s doomed. I mean, the only guy to survive THAT is the current UFC middleweight champ, whose name I dare not take in vain for fear of being struck by lightning or attacked by locusts or something.

    Way to totally doom your boy, Linker.

  • Mike_N

    And if Serra wins again, will Ryan have to change that estimate to 48 times out of 50?

  • selfdestructo

    and if Serra wins in their 3rd match, will Ryan have to change that estimate to 47 times out of 50?

  • Fightlinker is Wrong

    GSP will have his time to regain top spot from Serra. Serra has earned that spot by knocking out one of the baddest people on earth. Cut him some fucking slack.

    But in the meantime a new FIGHTLINKER IS WRONG comic!

  • cingred

    Gay – Matt Serra sucks because………..hmmm, can’t think of one reason. Lets outline why he is champion. He has been a BJJ black belt for almost ten years. Traditionally, it takes ten years to get one (these days, less, but you get the picture). He has a world class boxing trainer to train his hands. He is athletic, driven and he wants it more than anyone else. He sucks, sucks real bad.

    Rookies……love ‘em.

  • Jemaleddin

    Mike_N & selfdestructo: No, he’ll change it to 2 out of 100 and 3 out of 150.

    But ilostmydog has it right: go back and watch the whole fight – not that it takes that long – and you’ll see that Serra was picking GSP apart on the feet. And while people love to talk about GSP’s jits, he’s not at Serra’s level. I see this as a really tough fight for GSP.

    (I still hope he wins, mind you. I just do my nut-hugging in private.)

    The truth about MMA and fighting in general is that the reason the math doesn’t always work is that some people have your number. I think Chuck can beat more top 205’ers than Rampage can, but Chuck is never going to beat Rampage. So who’s the better fighter? In the same way, it could turn out that Serra has GSP’s number, even if he can’t beat a lot of other guys that GSP would mop the floor with. The champ’s the champ.

  • garth

    easier way to summarize: SCOREBOARD.
    I’m sure the Lakers could have beaten the Pistons if Magic Johnson and Byron Scott wouldn’t have gotten hurt before the 90 finals. Who gives a shit? GSP’s mind wasn’t there…SCOREBOARD says who gives a shit? Keith Jardine beats Houston Alexander if they meet again. SCOREBOARD. Chuck Liddell was “only” flash KO’d. SC- do I need to say it?

  • Mobb Deep

    FL hopes what he says is true, but deep inside he knows Serra has taken his game to another level and will give GSP the fight of his life.

  • selfdestructo

    I think Serra will be taken down and pounded out by GSP.

    That said, I don’t think Serra’s win was a fluke. He’s got 3 decision losses to 3 tough fighters, BJ Penn, Karo, and Din Thomas, and he held his own in each of those fights. He almost knocked out Karo in the first, but Karo managed to recover and BJ won without doing much damage.

    And his fourth loss, to Shonie Carter, now THAT is the definition of a lucky, fluke punch. He was easily winning that fight. And he made up for it by beating Shonie on TUF 4.

    So everybody denounces Matt Serra, but he’s never been submitted, and knocked out only once by a fluke punch, and lost 3 close decisions to 3 of the better fighters in the UFC.

  • Audacity

    The reason why 49 out of 50 holds no bearing is because we only have one figure to deal with: 1-0. Currently, Matt Serra has defeated GSP 1 time; GSP has defeated Matt Serra 0 times. If you do the math, Serra’s current 100% win rate works out to a 98% win rate for GSP. If you want to talk about Serra being the underdog, he was the underdog in the GSP fight. Other victorious underdogs this year include: Randy Couture, Forrest Griffin, Quinton Jackson, Keith Jardine, Gabriel Gonzaga… I have no doubt that GSP will kick his ass, but so far Serra has won 1/1 fight.

  • FightStinker is RIGHT!

    Serra will defeat gay canadian GSP. I hope he fuckin rips his head off and shits down his throat. I’m tired of GSP and his HGH usage. He needs to get hit by a 747 and I think the name of the 747 is Matt “Terra GSP’s head off” Serra.

  • HexRei

    wow, fightlinker gettin told here

  • fightlinker

    You all can disagree … so long as you don’t mind being right. Just because Serra beat GSP doesn’t mean he deserves to be #2 or #1. You look at his career as a whole and it’s not nearly good enough to break top five.

    I’m just saying when you make a ranking you have to take into account if the people lower on the ranking would beat him. And in Serra’s case, I think half the people in the top 10 list would whup him. So how the heck can he seriously be so high up on the list???

  • ilostmydog

    Rankings aren’t supposed to be predictive in nature. You can’t say ‘well, this guy at #9 could probably beat this guy at #6 so the rankings are wrong.’ That’s not how they work. Rankings are based on wins and losses. That’s it. And they aren’t supposed to be representative of someone’s entire career either.

  • Mike_N

    You might well be right, Linker, but like I said in one of the forum threads, this is shaking out just like the first fight. Before the first fight, the Interweb was all, “Man, GSP is gonna fuck Serra up,” and St. Pierre got creamed. Of course, the Interweb is currently all, “Okay, NOW GSP is gonna fuck Serra up.”

  • FightStinker is RIGHT!

    there isn’t a company who does rankings for MMA. So the rankings aren’t true…it’s all opinion

  • HexRei


    You all can disagree … so long as you don’t mind being right. Just because Serra beat GSP doesn’t mean he deserves to be #2 or #1. You look at his career as a whole and it’s not nearly good enough to break top five.

    …so long as we don’t mind being right? well, that’s not something i’ve traditionally had a problem with…

    serra may not be #2 but right now he is top5. he decimated the #1 ww in his last fight and has a decent record behind that, that is enough to put him in the top5.

  • fightlinker

    DAMNIT! My witty comeback, it’s ruined!


    It seems like an across the board decision that Matt Serra is suddenly number 2 on account of his defeat of GSP. I just don’t think it’s reasonable for one guy to rise so high based off one fight. We all saw how that worked out with Gabriel Gonzaga, right?

  • Márcio

    He’s the champion in one of the most talent deep divisions in the UFC. The truth is that he knocked GSP out and became the champ, in my mind he should be #1 in the rakings and that’s why I dont give a shit about rankings. Stop being such a dickheeeaaaaddddd fightlinker… give props to the man, he’s moment wont last long.

  • kanos jimoros

    What is a lucky punch? He blocked everything GSP threw at him and when he had him hurt he did everything right and ended it.

  • cyph

    Fightlinker (aka Mr. Left), say hello to Sam Caplan, GSP’s right nut.

  • x5BoltMainx

    Once you injure your back, you’re never the same. We’ll have to see how Serra’s back holds up.

  • Xavier

    The problem, Fightlinker, is that Gabe Gonzaga fought a Croatian can in order to rise as fast as he did in the rankings. It wasn’t a problem of Gonzaga being ranked too highly, but a problem of the guy he defeated being ranked way too fucking high.

    Matt Serra defeated GSP, perhaps the best P4P fighter in MMA.

    It’s not even comparable.

  • fightlinker

    Oh come on now … before Crocop came to the UFC he was just off a dominating performance at the OWGP. He was nipping at Fedor’s heels as #1 heavyweight and therefore right up there as one of the best p4p fighters.

    It’s the EXACT same thing.

  • Xavier

    Not at all. Cro Can was overrated by Pride fans who thought that their promotion was legitimate and something other than a drug-fueled freakshow-fest. In legitimate sport, actual MMA, Cro Can might be a top-twenty light-heavyweight but he’s certainly not even a top thirty heavyweight.

    GSP actually competes at a high level in promotions where MMA is a sport, not a wrestling-style spectacle. There’s no comparison until Cro Can gets himself some experience and ability doing legitimate fights. And that won’t happen in DREAM as seen by the schlub-fix fight they put him in to begin with.

  • FightStinker is RIGHT!

    Xavier what the fuck are you blabbing about Mirko like that for. Have you even watched Mirko’s career fights? I’m not talking about just his MMA fights but his whole fighting career? Go watch all of his fights and then come back and talk shit.

    The guy is also 34 years old…he’s out of his prime. The guy is an elite striker and he deserves his respect that he worked so hard for in this sport. He made a huge impact on the sport!

  • MadMan

    Serra deserves his ranking. He thoroughly dominated & finished one of the best p4p fighters in the world. You can’t take that from him no matter how you slice it.

    GSP–spinning backfist…first round.

  • Fightlinker is Wrong

    To be the best you have to beat the best. SERRA KNOCKED THE BEST THE FUCK OUT!

    Jesus titty fucking christ, Serra is number 1 until proven otherwise.

    1. Serra
    2. St. Pierre
    3. Hughes
    4. Fitch
    5. Koscheck
    6. Parisyan
    7. Sanchez
    8. Shields
    9. Condit
    10. Davis

    Parisyan is only over Sanchez in that list because since Sanchez beat Parisyan he has lost twice and Parisyan hasnt. The same rules would apply to Serra.

    Fightlinker is Wrong.

  • Atom

    Fightlinker is RIGHT!

    One win, even over the best fighter in a division, does not put you at #1. Anyone ever heard of Dennis Hallman?

    Anderson Silva is considered not only #1 in his division, but #1 P4P. If an unranked fighter beat him, would Silva move out of the top spot, and that other fighter move in? Perhaps, but only if it was a very highly ranked fighter to begin with, which Serra was not. Even if you’re of the opinion that rankings should reflect wins and losses only, and should not be predictory (I made up a word) in nature, you still have to consider more than JUST the last fight. With good matchmaking, this wouldn’t happen, but if fighter A is 0-5 and defeats fighter B who is 5-0, should they automatically switch places? Of course not!

    Interesting fact about Matt Serra- before GSP, he hadn’t finished a fight in 5 YEARS!

  • Atom

    Correction: I did not make up a word.

  • kentyman

    I would’ve used “predictive”. :)

  • kentyman

    And I like that matt lindfland picture, BTW.

  • Fightlinker is Wrong

    I consider Jan Nortje a MUCH superior fighter to Bob Sapp.

  • micjasbro

    Serra is GSP’s kryptonite!!