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More on the UFC’s plan to sue fans

MMA Junkie has more information on the UFC’s ongoing plans to sue individuals who streamed pay per views off the website Greenfeedz.com:

[T]he number of customer records is “voluminous,” according to Julie Cohen Lonstein, a lawyer with an anti-piracy firm representing the UFC. She said the information is currently being sifted to “extract certain data and make determinations internally.”

“We just got these files, so I am prioritizing them, but I don’t have the answer (of how long it will take to deliver the lawsuits),” she later added. “It will be in the very near future.”

Epstein said he hasn’t set guidelines for who gets sued and who doesn’t.

“Other than we need to have the requisite proof that they actually took it,” he said. “I think through this seizure, I think we’re going to be able to find lots of names, emails, telephone numbers and sometimes even addresses to identify those people that are watching illegally.”

It’s going to be interesting to see if the UFC actually has the information they need to connect the dots here. While they certainly have a big pile of usernames and emails, trying to tie those to real people could prove difficult. Then they’d have to establish who watched what, which means they’d need IP logs tied to specific pay per views. It’s a possibility that this information may be laid out in sue-friendly server logs, but there’s also dozens of potential ways that data could be rendered inconclusive because of how the technology works.

One thing is for sure though: the UFC is coming after streamers, and they have no moral qualms about it because these people aren’t real fans of the sport.

“If you’re a huge [Georges St-Pierre] fan, would you steal from him? I don’t think so. So we love our fans, we respect our fans, but people who steal from us, frankly, aren’t our fans.”

What about the fans that pay most of the time but pirate sometimes? AKA 90% of MMA fans out there? It’s going to be very interesting seeing who gets pinched for pirating and what the specifics of their cases will be. That’ll probably determine if the UFC manages to create a new revenue stream strong-arming people into settling expensive copyright suits or if this whole endeavor blows up in their face like it did with the music industry.

  • Jemaleddin

    Fan or no fan, I wouldn’t steal from GSP – that bastard will lay on you for 25 minutes and cover you in grease!

  • glassjawsh

    this is a great move by the UFC, since idea suing your own fans worked so well for metallica…

  • iamphoenix

    Dear Dana White,

    You are stupid.

  • DJ ThunderElbows

    I’m not worried about this, but I am curious if this will make the people who steal without taking anything buy PPVs or just stop following.  I don’t grab streams, but I’m already waning in how much I watch due to quality and time, so I can’t imagine what sorta-thieves are feeling.  If Dana makes it too much effort or danger for them to watch, will they just leave?  Does it even matter?

  • Letibleu

  • iamphoenix

    those holes aren’t big enough for my DIIICCCCCK

  • racebannon

    SF Weekly had an article awhile back about how companies and law firms are going after piraters. It was mostly porn companies and small movies production companies (straight-to-DVD movies) going after these individuals.

    The tactic was not to take people to court but threaten taking them to court. The law firm would then present an alternative to court in the way of a settlement that was usually around $3000. Because so many people were scared of court, they would just settle and pay the $3000 even if they were innocent.

    Could be what the UFC has in mind. But I wouldn’t put it past Dana to take a more extreme measure.

  • drunkenjunk

    waste of the courts time.

  • G Funk

    How bout the fans across the pond? They’re doing super mass gang smash & grabs!

  • CAP

    Don’t most smelly motherfuckers across the pond get this for free in HD? Thanks UFC for raw dawging your biggest fanbase I guess only “real fans” blindly throw money at all the mediocre ppvs. I can’t think of any other sport out there where you need to shell out this kind of ca$h to follow.

    Oh well I guess you can just hold off on that stream and wait until the videos are uploaded. The internet finds a way.

    This won’t be the “biggest sport in the world” with this model.

  • frickshun

    ^^Are you high?? The biggest sports in the world can charge advertisers & networks buttloads of money to carry them in lieu of charging individuals to watch their programming. How the fuxx will the UFC get there if they don’t make money? Fox paid they for some programming. That’s a nice start.

    PS: For anyone that gets Fuel, the post-PPV show is great to catch anything you missed. They show highlights, do interviews w/fighters & sometimes give you Bonnar’s insights!!

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