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Poor Nate Marquardt has a testosterone deficiency

Oh, look, it’s our old friend Testosterone Replacement Therapy. I remember you from Chael Sonnen’s sketchy ass steroids case. Now I see you’re friends with Nate Marquardt. From the Bloody Elbow play by play of Nate’s appearance on the MMA hour:

Nate’s here with his manager from Alchemist MMA Lex McMahon. Nate says he wasn’t cleared to fight because of a situation he’s dealt with since August. Feeling sluggish, horrible. Memory was off. Doctor did tests, which came back for low testosterone.

He went on testosterone therapy. Went to the UFC to discuss it. He went on treatment. Was on treatment until the first of this year. Applied for therapeutic-use exemption for fight against Dan Miller. Commission allowed it, but they wanted Nate to do tests after fight. Go off treatment for 8 weeks and take blood tests. Nate claims he went off treatment, took the three blood tests. Results came back and doctor wrote letter that said Nate had low testosterone and was a candidate for treatment.

Personal doctor recommended he go back on treatment. This is three weeks out from Story fight. Doctor recommended more aggressive treatment given proximity to the fight.

[1:10 p.m.] Doctor said treatment wouldn’t be worth it if it wasn’t more aggressive. Nate took treatment for two weeks. Took a blood test to make sure he was within normal range, but that test came back high (out of range). Nate started to panic.

McMahon notes that doctor told Nate to stop treatment to get back to normal levels, which he did.

Nate admits he should have requested testing earlier from his doctor. Nate took several tests the week of the fight, which showed his levels falling, but still above acceptable range. Close by weigh-in, but still above. At that point, the Pennsylvania commission told him he wouldn’t be able to fight, put on suspension.

Ariel asks why Nate had lowered testosterone. Nate runs through symptoms: sluggish, no energy, poor memory, etc. Talks about other tests they ran: brain scans, mono test, blood test for other hormones. Nate runs through list of possible reasons: genetic, problem with testicles, pituitary gland problem. But Nate isn’t sure why he personally has low testosterone.

You know, I’m starting to get just a tiny bit suspicious hearing about these pro athletes who ‘totally legitimately need testosterone injections.’ Call me a cynic, but it sounds less like a necessary thing and more like a nice legal way to juice and get away with cheating. How many other fighters in the UFC have this dreaded testosterone deficiency, I wonder?

  • CAP

    So TRT must be the new plague to MMA fighters and MMA fighters only. Stop the bullshit or let them all juice.

  • matthewpolly

    I’m no expert, but isn’t one way to have testosterone deficiency to use so much steroids that when you go off of them you’re body no longer produces the previous level of testosterone?

    and how the fuck is a doctor’s note an excuse for using. are PEDs going to be like medical marijuana? Every fighter in training camp feels sluggish, because cutting weight and working out like a maniac make you feel tired.

  • DJ ThunderElbows

    I get grumpy and lethargic when I work long hours too – clearly I need HRT.  But at least I don’t risk peoples brains who’ve agreed to face me without that enhancement.

  • Mixed Martial Adam

    As Nate would say, “I’m not a doctor” but from my loose reading on TRT it doesn’t sound like a condition that someone could have and still train, fight and workout like a pro fighter. Even so is AGGRESSIVE TESTOSTERONE THERAPY three weeks out from a main event in a hard-ass commission state the best idea? No.

    He was off the shit for 8 weeks, he should have stayed off it for 12, fought and then gone back on it. By all means replace your testosterone, but at normal levels.

    If he couldn’t meet the normal levels two weeks out from fight night he should have dropped out of the main event instead of having blind faith his TRT levels would drop. Now he’s dropped from the UFC and although I feel badly for him (don’t cry Nate) the rules were pretty obvious.

    AND FINALLY – it’s not the Doctor’s job to keep Nate in the safe testosterone range for fighting. It’s the doctor’s job to treat Nate for his “condition”. It was Nate’s responsibility to ensure he was receiving treatment that was within the rules. Steroids are a normal health treatment, but not when you have to compete professionally as an athlete. Same with TRT. He knew he had to be within range and he wasn’t, and like ten things could have been done to avoid a pre weigh-in cancellation of a main event.

  • frickshun

    Jesus fuck!! Can we get some confirmation that all these (top) guys are using something??

    Open letter to Nate: YOU’RE A FUCKING ASSHOLE. Thanks for nothing!!

    Open letter to Brennerman: YOU’RE THE FUCKING MAN!! Your rasslin impressed me & I appreciate you reminding me that Story was not such a great prospect. Hey Charlie, see you back on the prelims by ’12!!

  • Blackula Jonez

    nate is being made an example of, you can play fair or cheat but do not expect leniency from the wrath of the bald father if your ass gets caught.


    Will be nice to see Lombard vs Nate though.

  • lukustra

    it was roids?! no wayyyyyy bro. totally didnt see this coming! (sike)

  • tpiddy

    many steroids such as deca (nandrolone) stimulate progesterone which has a regulatory effect on testosterone production. these steroids reduce natural testosterone for a period even after the steroid use is halted.

    users often supplement with testosterone during and after use of other anabolic steroids such as nandrolone in order to maintain their test levels.

  • Mixed Martial Adam

    @ Blackua Jones – Lombard vs Nate won’t happen as Nate said he’s staying at 170.

    Never a good idea to fuck up a main event last minute when Spike TV is counter programming the card to prove a ratings disparity. A normal card and maybe Dana would relax a bit, but I imagine their ratings on Versus were being looked at by quite a few different parties – including NBC.

  • lukustra

    “Nate took another blood test on the day of the fight, and his levels were within proper range.” -you skipped this.

  • FiveBoltMain

    this doesn’t add up. why take this long to say that you’re on trt?

  • Mixed Martial Adam

    @ Lukestra – you have to be medically cleared to weigh in. It doesn’t matter if they were fine Saturday evening, they weren’t low enough by the cut off point.

  • lukustra

    plus i like how he calls it going off of treatment to meet levels. i thought you were juicing to have normal test levels, not above? if you were low, and normal when “treating” why would you ever be above. lol fishy.

  • scissors61

    he pulled a sonnen. unbelievable. 


  • thingvolds

    well well well.

  • Mixed Martial Adam

    @ Lukstra – “plus i like how he calls it going off of treatment to meet levels. i thought you were juicing to have normal test levels, not above? if you were low, and normal when “treating” why would you ever be above. lol fishy.”

    - excellent, excellent point.

  • lukustra

    I also like how his manager snuck this in for dana, “McMahon notes that other promoters blew up his phone with contract offers.”

  • Symbul

    You can get caught for this shit, just get caught after the fight so it doesn’t fuck up Dana’s TV schedule and you’re fine. See: Everyone who’s ever tested positive, INCLUDING NATE MARQUARDT.

  • CAP

    well well well well.

    Does this give us the answers we wanted or open more questions? Does this shed some light on commissions as well? Chael at least got to fight even though he had high levels. Why wasn’t he scratched BEFORE the event like Nate. Is Pennsylvania’s commission more thorough? Now I have more questions I need answers to.

  • Mixed Martial Adam

    Ben Askren just tweeted this:

    @nathanmarquardt you are a cheater, not once but frequently. Stop cheating, come to bellator and I will crush you. @bjornrebney

    Cold blooded.

  • CAP

    I’m starting to like Askren.

  • G Funk

    Is MMA going the way of baseball? TRT my ass. Get ready for some shark jumping people. Our beloved MMA will prob take a few leaps back if this keeps coming out. Lucky for this sport its not mainstream enough for peeps to really give much a fuck about.I don’t like it one bit…

  • matthewpolly

    if nate or any other fighters’ testosterone level are too low they should either pick a different career or man up and fight with low testosterone. Every fighter feels tired and sluggish in camp. It like telling your professor, “Sure I cheated on the exam, but I only did it because my IQ is lower than the other students.”

    And the reason they shouldn’t be allowed to just juice, besides the issue of fair play, is that it’s short term benefits lead to long term physical destruction: see Ken Shamrock, Mark Kerr, Mark Coleman, Kevin Randleman for what happened from the good ole days when roids were not, like almost everything else, illegal.

  • DJ ThunderElbows

    if nate or any other fighters’ testosterone level are too low they should either pick a different career or man up and fight with low testosterone. Every fighter feels tired and sluggish in camp. It like telling your professor, “Sure I cheated on the exam, but I only did it because my IQ is lower than the other students.”

    THIS!  I am too weak to fight, but if I use juice it’s ok?  This is bullshit – you’re not a fucking athlete Nate – you’re a bitch like Chael.  Go the fuck home and sell real estate.

    I think Askren just became my favorite Welterweight.

  • frickshun

    This shit is seriously going to turn into a major fucking scandal. Good thing nobody gives a shit about fighting outside of a few losers on messageboards & failed Olympic rasslers…..

    Actually, most people assumed everyone is using anyway so I guess it’s business as usual.

  • P W

    Fuck, so it was steroids after all. Then I really don’t get why Dana didn’t curse the bitch out. It can’t be because Dana isn’t sure what to think about the validity of Nate’s TRT, can it? Because that’s the oldest… well maybe not the oldest, but the most popular excuse in the book! Getting a shady doctor to prescribe roids to you is ridiculously simple. The whole procedure is even described in that popular steroids documentary Bigger, Stronger, Faster.

  • FiveBoltMain

    give me a break! mma will survive this little blemish.

    baseball survived when the white sox threw the worldseries, the lockouts, canceled seasons, and the steroid scandall from when players could juice all they want and not have to take a drug test for it.

    football survived lockouts, steroid use, ray lewis beating murder charges while winning a superbowl, and michal vick killing mans best friend. and lets not forget all of the players that get arrested every year for dui, drug charges, and assault.

    every sport has skeletons in their closet, it just happens to be that mma’s closet has less skeletons than every other sport.

  • DJ ThunderElbows

    Don’t forget, little Margarine, that MMA is also (officially) played in fewer elementary, middle and high schools in this country than any sport you mention.  As in: none.  It is not part of our family culture nor something every office in America fills-out brackets for.

  • G Funk

    Yes, and the fact that baseball did take a nasty hit after all the roids scandals. Of coarse it survived, it’s the biggest past time in the country. But interest dropped BIGTIME.

  • FiveBoltMain

    if interest dropped big time, then why do games still get millions of viewers? players are still making millions of dollars and they still have big time sponsors. sportscenter covers most of the games and they still have baseball tonight.

    people will find anything to bitch about, but after a while they’ll forget about it and things will go back to normal.

  • DJ ThunderElbows

    MMA is still considered an aberration by most of the world, Marge. Going back to normal would mean it not existing.

  • frickshun

    Wow Butters!! Thanks for all that anecdotal evidence about baseball. You must be the worlds greatest statistician.

    IMBECILE!! I think even Dana must realize after the Chael thing…..Nate has to be a fucking idiot to leave this unresolved & allow it into the public consciousness.

  • FiveBoltMain

    you guys are a lost cause. you can keep on living in your little bubble and keep on thinking that mma is one scandal away from going the way of the dinosaurs.

  • DJ ThunderElbows

    Dinosaurs are fighting in underground orgs in the outer boroughs of my city?  WHY DID NO ONE TELL ME THIS???

  • frickshun

    My bubble doesn’t allow carpenter jeans.

  • DJ ThunderElbows

    I find it hilarious that the guy assuming nothing can hurt the system that’s only been in business for 20 years (and profitable for less than ten) is talking about other people’s bubble residences.  Its as if he missed the last decade of bubbles bursting

  • G Funk

    Creepy looking sheltered messicans can’t have bubbles.

  • frickshun

    I’m gonna smack Butters bubble w/my dick.

  • DJ ThunderElbows

    he’s pretty good looking – FOR A BOY IN A BUBBLE.

  • iamphoenix

    i just want to say 2 things.



  • glassjawsh

    someone say bubbles?