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The Incredible Expanding UFC ON FOX press conference post, part deux

Quotes have started rolling in from the 1-on-1 interviews with the Fox and Zuffa people from yesterday’s press conference. While I wasn’t overly impressed at how enthused certain Fox Sports people seemed at working with the UFC, quotes like this sound more up the right alley:

“We look at numbers and we approached this like any other sport,” said Hill. “What are the trends? Is it trending up or trending down? This [deal] is like getting into baseball or basketball 10 years after it was launched. I’ve been covering sports for a hell of a long time and to me, this is the most unique opportunity I’ve ever seen in my life.”

Meanwhile, in Bellator-land:

“At this stage, the only group that we’re working with that are actually putting fights on with Bellator is MTV2, and they’ve been doing an amazing job,” Rebney today told MMAjunkie.com (www.mmajunkie.com).

Rebney admitted the while UFC’s recent deal with Fox has “shifted the landscape,” he isn’t sure whether it’s going to have a direct impact on Bellator’s business.

“We’re a very different format,” he said. “We’re a very different organization. What we do and how we do it is distinct and unique from how the UFC does it. The UFC utilizes the principle of matchmaking, which they are apparently going to continue to use, where they just sit behind a desk and decide what happens, and who fights for what when. We don’t. We’re a pure sports organization.”

Is it just me, or is Bellator’s ‘tournament or die’ stance really starting to limit them? It’s not that I don’t enjoy them, but how many times have cool fights not happened because the promotion refuses to do anything but the rare ‘superfight’? If Bjorn isn’t willing to budge on this, maybe he really won’t be the promotion that ends up on Spike.

Great fuckcocks, no! Fox Sports guy Eric Shanks says Mr Lipstick Gus Johnson may end up doing some UFC work:

“We’ll do pre-fight, post fight, with probably more FOX talent. We have a lot of guys here between Jay (Glazer), Gus Johnson now is a huge fight fan and does a lot of MMA. Gus’s schedule permitting and having conversations with him as to when he would be available, I think we’d love to have both of those guys on.”

This is where we gotta hope the UFC is willing to stand up and say “That guy sucks and we’d rather replace Joe Rogan with Mauro Ranallo than consider this.”

  • DJ ThunderElbows

    Is it just me, or is Bellator’s ‘tournament or die’ stance really starting to limit them?

    Starting?

  • iamphoenix

    I still have not seen a single fight from bellator. Only a highlight from 2 years ago.

  • frickshun

    ^^Their 2 Pitbulls, Askren, Warren & Alvarez are worth it. Plus, they gots Killa B!!

  • lukustra

    They have some decent fights once in a while, nothing compared to pre-zuffa Strikeforce though. it seems they have a lot of wrestlers who like to grind out decisions and they focus more on the smaller guys. Hector Lombard is one of the most underrated fighters in the world though. Hes super fun to watch. They need to get his ass in the UFC before hes done, hes 33 already.

  • DJ ThunderElbows

    They?  HE needs to leave Bellator – he’s 33 already.

    But Luka’s right, there’s tons of ex-wrestler jocks taking up space and none of ‘em will draw flies.  Lombard and Alvarez are their only draws and no one but hardcores know who they are.  He has to talk-up the ‘Pure Sport’ because the shows are dull as shit.  I skipped western MMA back when the Wrestlers Who Wouldn’t Learn Other Martial Arts flooded us with dull decisions and I ain’t going back.  It’s bad enough we get that shit in the UFC.

    I don’t watch tv, but I’ve caught some bootlegs online and they aren’t even worth bootlegging.

  • CAP

    Bellator is hit or miss but I always pay attention when Alvarez and Lombard are fighting. Lombard was on his way to the UFC a while back and a visa issue fucked it up. Now he’s stuck there.

  • lukustra

    Just heard that the Nov 12th card will only feature two fights and not compete with pacman. I mean, I’m lukewarm about this. They said it wont be a championship fight cuz all the champs are booked for fights, but that the fight would be “relevant” which basically means nothing. I don’t understand where we’ll be able to watch the rest of the card, and i hope this doesnt waste one of the “four fox shows a year”. I hope they mean calendar year, so we still get 4 FOX shows in 2012 and not have these two fights waste one of those cards. I’m starting to get the feeling that we might not be getting the spactacular cards we thought on FOX. Lorenzo and Dana keep boldly repeating that they’re a “PPV company.”

  • lukustra

    and look, don’t get me wrong. I’m not overhyping Lombard as a fighter. He’s not a typical 22 win streak type fighter, only when he faces the type of competition that he has. He’s not the savior to the middleweight division or anything crazy like that. He’s a upper tier fighter who’s, mainly, REALLY fun to watch. Hes a huge middleweight and would put on fantastic fights against fighters like Vitor and Stann.

  • CAP

    In that interview with Ariel Dana made it sound like this is a “bonus” event and they will have four more on network TV. But the 2 fight card sounds pretty stupid. If that’s the case they better be relevant fights.

  • scissors61

    rumors are floating around that they’ll be moving penn/condit to the fox card and putting machida vs franklin or davis on as well. 

  • lukustra

    idk how much truth there is to those rumors, and theyre very “relavant” fights for mma fans, but idk how exciting those fights will be. More likely then not, both of those will be decisions, and Machida was very much disliked among casuals for being too tentative before he randomly started KO’ing some peeps. Him against Franklin might be somewhat exciting, but Machida vs Davis is a HORRIBLE fight for FOX.

  • scissors61

    Condit/Penn will be awesome, you wet blanket 

  • lukustra

    agreed, Condit vs Penn is gonna be awesome. Crisp standup, beautiful grappling, but more likely then not it’ll be a decision. And Penn will probably take advantage of Condit’s awful takedown defense.

  • lukustra

    I just said that IM excitied for the fights, they’re great fights, but I want this to workout as much as possible for the UFC and you can’t say Machida wasn’t consistently boo’ed.

  • scissors61

    I’m gonna make shitloads of cash on BJ in that fight. Penn opened at -125, which is a goddamn bargain in my books. Condit’s not the type of fighter that can beat Penn (i.e. super-fast boxer-wrestler). As for it going to decision, I refer you to Bonnar/Griffin 1 or any number of 3-rounders that have sparked interested amongst casuals and hardcores alike. 

  • BobMarley

    lombard is not in the UFC because he’s the most obviously roided fighter out there. It’d be a joke to have him there. Entertaining alright, but still.

    And I dont get the hate for Mauro, he says funny shit and describes the action pretty well. Better than goldberg and joe fucked up voice rogan

  • lukustra

    yeah, I love Mauro. Brings me back to Pride days and the dude knows his shit. He does a great job aside from his occasionally major exaggeration.

  • frickshun

    ^^What a cockface!! You’re saying Lombard is obviously roided up just b/c he’s got more muscle than a he-man action figure or japanime character & no normal human can look like that?

    Okay, maybe he’s done a cycle or two.

  • iamphoenix

    Fuck you guys for liking mauri. Guy is a fuckin retard…sooooo annnoooooyyyyiiinnnggg i just ean to start ripping off pussy hair

  • DJ ThunderElbows

    Penn/Condit is perfect – hope it happens.

  • glassjawsh

    fuck hector lombard that shit bird tried to kill christmas

     

    take your shots at christmas while you can hector

     

    because once lloyd hears about this and then your…ass….is…grass

  • agentsmith

    I dig Bellator, but Lombard is a can-smasher.

  • Blackula Jonez

    Lombard is a 5’8 fronting ass welterweight can crusher and I watch/dvr every bellator show that airs on television.

     

    I will assume that if they able to get on Spike TV that Bellator will become the defacto #2 org in the biz and before they implode or get bought out by Zuffa we will get two years of decent competition between the two organizations.

  • DJ ThunderElbows

    Bjorn was recently asked about that and he’s not deviating from the tourney format so he can say he’s more sport than the UFC.

    None of the top talent outside of Zuffa wants to go there, so I don’t see how they become #2, Count Blackula.

    ProElite is more likely to rise up next, methinks.

  • CAP

    Condit/Penn could be a good main event but Davis or Machida is a risk. Maybe Machida but Davis isn’t ready for that exposure yet. Machida is a true example of a mixed martial artist so I’m cool with him if he has a quality opponent (not a wrestlefucker).

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