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The card is in the books, and now it’s time to deal with the fallout of UFC 125.

First things first, Frankie Edgar silenced the doubters and put on a performance that might even top his fights against Penn. In the first round, “The Truth” received that type of beating that made it appear as though a call to social services was necessary. But Edgar somehow survived only to come back to get the better of Maynard on the feet, while stuffing most of the Xtreme Couture product’s takedown attempts and actually landing his own takedowns seemingly at will over the course of the the next four rounds.

While the draw decision was reasonable given how close rounds three and five were, if either man deserved the nod it was the champion. Either way, we’ll get a decisive winner in a few months when they rematch. Until then just appreciate the classic that took place last night.

If given the right fights, Brian Stann could finally emerge as the star Zuffa has always hoped he would be. Everyone knew the former Marine had heavy hands, but few realistically expected him to stop the zombie that is Chris Leben. Potentially interesting opponents for Stann include Wanderlei Silva, Vitor Belfort (should he get defeated by Anderson Silva), and Michael Bisping.

What’s amazing is that the guy has gone from being essentially written off after his 2-2 startin the UFC to now being a relevant and exciting addition to the middleweight division over the course of two impressive victories. He was able to choke out a seasoned grappler in Mike Massenzio and outstrike a rock jawed brawler in Chris Leben. And in victory, he continually praised his opponent. What a goddamn nice guy.

More analysis after the jump.

I think it’s clear that Brandon Vera is no longer cut out for a spot on the UFC roster. He has merely one win over a relevant opponent — a 2006 TKO victory over an out-of-shape Frank Mir — and has gone 0-3 in his past three fights. On top of that, Vera has gone 3-6 in his past nine. His performance last night was nothing short of pathetic, as he had literally nothing to offer Thiago Silva on the ground and landed no significant strikes on the feet. I don’t remember the last time I saw a supposed high-level fighter stink up the Octagon the way Brandon Vera did last night and he and the UFC would both be better off parting ways.

I hate to say it as I am a big fan of both men, but Marcus Davis and Phil Baroni should also be finished in the UFC. Neither man knows anything else but fighting, but they should each find new ways to spend their time. Their continued health and self-respect require it.

Clay Guida is now a legitimate contender at lightweight, at the expense of Takanori Gomi. The way I see it, “The Carpenter” is now at the top of the 155 pound contenders heap, alongside fighters like George Sotiropoulous, Jim Miller, Anthony Pettis, and Kenny Florian. I like a fight with either Miller or Sotirop in his next outing, depending on how those two do in their respecting upcoming scraps. Alternatively, a match with former champ Sean Sherk is a good next step.

Jeremy Stephens is quickly becoming the lightweight division’s version of Chris Lytle. He’ll likely never fight for a championship, but his ability to produce highlight reel finishes will keep him continually in contention for fight night bonuses and televised bouts.

I’m glad Jacob Volkmann got the nod over Antonio McKee, even though I didn’t get to see the fight. For a guy whose never beaten a legitimate UFC-caliber opponent, McKee talked a lot of insane gibberish about how good he was. It’s always nice to see morons who fail to be self-aware get humbled, especially within the confines of a steel cage. Eat shit, McKee.

I wasn’t too happy to see both Josh Grispi and Mike Brown drop bouts to unheralded prospects, but it just goes to show how deep the 145 pound weight class is, and how it really is still in a development stage due to the merger. Although it rarely happens, Bloody Elbow’s Jonathan Snowden hits the nail with his observation that the featherweight class is “under construction” after the merger. It’s a great point, and it’s surprising considering how often Snowden is wrong.

If he wasn’t already matched up with Rick Story, I’d like to see Stun Gun fight Thiago Alves next. The South Korean fighter is boring to watch but for his beautiful judo throws, and should be matched up with somebody with serious striking skills to see where he really fits into the welterweight division. Nate Diaz has cemented his spot as a high-level gatekeeper.


  • Jim Harbaugh Scramble

    In the first round, “The Truth”

    I think you mean the Answer.

  • iamphoenix

    how did edgar silence doubter? He’s gonna lose his next fight. I still don’t care for the guy. He can’t finish and he’s fucking small. He’s a midget.

    I hate guida.

    Stun Gun was boring and I didn’t see anything beautiful about his judo throws. It’s like watching a dog shit on your baby, but you don’t mind because the dog has a pretty dress on.

    They gotta stop giving Nate Diaz fights against guys who like to hug. It’s fucking ridiculous. How am I supposed to enjoy a Nate Diaz fight if all that’s gonna happen is people hugging the fuck out of him? These wrestlers work so hard at hugging and defending subs that they feel they don’t have to throw a single punch because the judges will be more than happy to hand them a decision.

    And I hate guida I wish his hair would burn in a fire.

  • Jim Harbaugh Scramble

    Excellent hate on McKee and Snowden.

    Stun Gun/Alves works for me. It was crazy how he called out GSP.

  • Reverend Clint

    good write up but mine was funnier.

    id like to see guida against stephens… a hardcore ko with all that hair!

    stann vs wandy or bisping would be sweet

  • frickshun

    Hi Shawn!! You & I might be the only Edgar supporters round here.

    I wouldn’t have complained if it was stopped in the 1st. Thankfully, it wasn’t & he showed the heart of a fucking lion.

    Stann was so much bigger & stronger. He is definitely better than I gave him credit for.

    Stun Gun is not only boring but he’s criminally insane. Why isn’t anyone talking about him calling out GSP?? I was cracking the fuck up. STUN GUN NOT CHARGED TONIGHT…..WILL CHARGE STUN GUN NEXT TIME. SANKYO FANS!!

  • Reverend Clint

    i just hate tan boring midgets

    and stun gun calling out GSP after dry humping a shitty fighter was comical

  • Letibleu

    I found McKee talked too much for a guy who had not seen the UFC division yet.

    Now he knows… and so do we.

  • Symbul

    The worst part about DHK’s performance is that he should’ve lost the decision. He didn’t do shit in round 2 while Diaz outstruck him and outworked him on the mat.

    Yeah I get that it’s great that Frankie Edgar had that amazing comeback after round 1. But seriously, how do rounds 2-5 show anything more than any other Edgar fight so far? He stuffed takedowns, got some meaningless takedowns of his own and outpointed his opponent on the feet.

    I was picking Maynard before the fight but I think Edgar will take the rematch, a la Edgar-Penn 2. I don’t get a hardon for Edgar’s style, but he’s fucking good at (winning decisions at) that weight and he deserves the title strap.

    McKee is way more self-aware than you’re giving him credit for. His promotional schtick is a show he puts on. He knows he’s not going on a UFC title run. I haven’t seen the fight but reports are that it was a pretty dismal show from both men.

  • frickshun

    Clint–>I hate hypotheticals (like Shawn passing the NYS Bar or Ryan’s blog being a legit source of income) but let’s imagine that round 1 never happened. Or as I call it: “The Toms River Massacre”. Frankie heavily outscored Gray in rd 2. That could be a product of Gray taking a round off or Frankie adjusting to the speed/power/timing. Let’s call it a wash. In rd 3, it was close but Frankie started to pull away. Gray got a takedown & a few shots to steal it (in my mind). Frankie stormed back in rd 4, ripping Gray w/good combos AND WOBBLED HIM!! Yes, Gray’s legs buckled @ 1 point. I gave rd 5 to Frankie for his workrate & although no big shots landed, he landed way more than Gray.

    Once Frankie adjusted to the unexpected power in Gray’s lead hand, he mostly took over. He stuffed most of Gray’s shots & got a couple of his own in. He’s unquestionably a better boxer. His cardio is absolutely top notch. He only slowed a little in the last round, fighting more in spurts (he made me spurt).

    You’re calling him boring (which of course is quite subjective). I’m saying FUCK YOU, ASSHOLE.


  • Reverend Clint

    i find him and his fights boring. the only guy in there “actively” trying to win and i say “actively” even though gay manhard couldnt finish himself off with the help of a Arianne Celeste. i think gray won it by at least a point and maybe two points. but a draw seems appropriate since this was a title and he really didnt dominate except for rd 1.

  • Reverend Clint

    wait gray like most wrestlers is a closet pillow bitter so arianne would be a bad choice. better go with Mark Coleman

  • Simco

    “It’s like watching a dog shit on your baby, but you don’t mind because the dog has a pretty dress on.”

    Try hard and fail hard.

  • P W

    “In the first round, “The Truth”

    I think you mean the Answer.”

    I didn’t get that either. Was it supposed to be a joke of some sort referring to Brandon “The Truth” Vera?

  • Billytk

    Wow nice article, with all the shit posts we get from Subo and lately Clint it’s actually a refreshing surprise to come here and find a intelligent well written post especially one with so many accurate accounts of events. Nice Job

  • iamphoenix

    i didn’t try hard what are you talking about.

  • shawn

    typo fellas. meant to write “the answer.”

  • Reverend Clint

    “find a intelligent well written post” you actually come here for that?

  • Fitdaws

    I say keep Davis and Baroni….there fights are always exciting……Besides Marcus could have put Stephens away if he had followed up on punches when he had the chance and not gone for take downs….Baroni was gassing, and once he got kicked in the head it was over, but he had a chance early in the round…I say give them each another fight…IMO…

  • Reverend Clint

    make them fight each other!

  • FiveBoltMain

    Frankie can make adjustments and destroy Maynard in the rematch and then Pettis and people are still going to shit on him. Frankie will become the next Rodney Dangerfield… respect!

    I don’t get the hate for Guida. Yes, at one time he was a lay n prayer, but he has finished his last three opponents via submission. Give the guy some credit for seeing the flaws in his skills and changing things up. Does it really matter that his striking is unorthodox if at the end of the day, it keeps his opponent guessing and allows him to submit them?

  • Billytk

    well if it’s not going to be funny (which yours and subo’s never are) then it should at least make sense

  • subo


  • Reverend Clint

    who is this guy?

  • iamphoenix

    clint, he’s a member of the Better Blog Authority Institute of America. And he’s fucking auditing you bitches!

    butters, why do you call a shitty standup game unorthodox when it’s shitty? it’s not unorthodox, it’s just fucking bad and i hate guida.

  • Blackula Jonez

    I wouldn’t call Guidas striking unorthodox, he was trying to confuse and frustrate Gomi into giving up takedown or create a scramble to get a sub, and it worked. Deal with it.

    Stun Gun got outstruck every round, got takedowns and did nothing with them but continue to get outstruck while fending off sub attempts.

    But he was fighting a Diaz brother so for one time fans are in favor of ineffectual top position grappling without any threat of fight ending ground and pound or submissions.

  • iamphoenix

    Diaz brothers are my favorite fighters!!!! also, guida stupid and i hate him.

  • Reverend Clint

    only people who require prescription helmets are Diaz fans

  • iamphoenix

    it’s not my fault i like young, brash male fighters with badass attitudes and inspirational nun chuk skillz from the 209 tanned bodied decathlonetes….

  • Blackula Jonez

    Diaz fan or not, Stun Gun won that fight by getting takedowns and maintaining top position. His ground and pound was stifled by Nates guard and when he passed he was put back into full guard almost immediately.

    And when he gassed like clockwork in the 3rd round, he had to grit his teeth and hope the ignorant judges gave him the two previous rounds even though he was barely throwing any strikes and did little to nothing as Nate swiped at him while setting up sub attempts/being the aggressor/trying to finish the fight.

    But winning fights off your back without submitting someone is next to impossible in mma due to dumb ass judges.

  • Oontyex

    even joe rogan now has tunnel vision for the rubber guard, nates open guard was very active and a mistake by stun gun would have resulted in a triangle arm bar, also, the 2 (was it 3?) leg lock attempts both seemed very close. But for some reason rogan was baggin on it.
    In contrast see someone use rubberguard to do nothing and rogan has a chubby saying how effective it is.

    mma judges need to primarily value who is damaging the opponent more then second who is threatening their opponent more. stalling from on top and not throwing is bs and shouldnt be given a win – the takedown that leads to stalling and the stalling is way overrated. Lay and pray/ wall and stall never finish fights, so in what way is it ‘effective grappling’ when the aim of a fight is to ko/tko/submission.

  • frickshun

    Black–>Guida’s striking is……not good. But he did confound Gomi & took full advantage.

  • glassjawsh

    if by “confound” you mean “hop around like a gorilla and get jabbed in the face 25 times” than that is an accurate statement. guida won because gomi got lazy in the scramble after yet another crappy takedown from clay where he did nothing and takanori got up easily. at best (for guida) the fight would have been even after 2 rounds.

    I agree with phoenix, fuck that guy

  • FiveBoltMain

    Boo hoo, Pokemon lost. Quit your bitching and change your tampon.

  • agentsmith

    Guida was bobbing his head up and down more than Subo’s sister. I suppose the idea was it would keep Gomi guessing about the takedowns.

  • FiveBoltMain

    How do you know that? Has she serviced you?

  • frickshun

    Jawsh–>WTF are you talking about? Gomi couldn’t touch Guida. I’m not condoning the “dance of despair & disillusionment” but it fucking worked.

    Gomi needs to drop to 125. HE’D BE A MONSTER THERE!!

  • glassjawsh

    ^ maybe i need to rewatch the fight (it was the only one from 125 i caught) but it looked to me like almost every time guida came in wild, gomi was flicking that lead right directly off his dome. other than that kick and some shit take downs guida wasn’t really doing much other than reminding me of the african guy from bloodsport

    edit: i even gave the first round to gomi

  • P W

    “WTF are you talking about? Gomi couldn’t touch Guida.”

    Are you sure you didn’t make the same mistake I almost made, which is taking Joe Rogan’s commentary as an accurate description of what’s going on in a fight. Because it’s easy to start thinking “that must have been a really hard blow” every time he goes “wow!”, and reversely when he’s not yelling, you assume nothing is happening. It can be very misleading at times.

  • frickshun

    Gomi looked confused & gunshy. He was afraid to get taken down (well look what happened there) & was winging most of his punches from waaaaay outside.