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UFC chooses one failed media over another

Mike over at Bloody Elbow points out that it looks like the UFC is choosing HD DVD over the Blu Ray technology. If you didn’t know, the HD and Blu Ray technologies are locked in a battle to be the next big tech thing. The world hasn’t witnessed a battle like this since 8-track vs Cassette tape or VHS vs Betamax.

Of course, it doesn’t really matter who wins because if you ask me, neither of these dumb fucking things are ever going to really take off. Regardless of how you package it, disc technology has moved way past practical and is just utter bullshit now.

CDs were bad enough for scratching and skipping … then they came out with DVDs – the concept being instead of 1 highly scratchable layer, they now have several! And both these new technologies hold even more info on even more layers, meaning the second you put one of the discs on top of your television it’s gonna get dirty, scratched, and stop working.

I’m all about data storage, and while that might not seem like a viable option, I’m betting it will be in five more years. You wait and see. Until then, if you want to spend 400 bucks on one of these new HD or Blu Ray players, go ahead and have fun. Me, I’d rather just burn the money on hookers and blow. Same thing, except I guess you have a slightly better chance of catching herpes from a hooker than from a blu ray player.

  • c-ing_red

    How long do you think it will take for a flash drive to be able to hold enough information to hold a full HD presentation, and be as cheap as a DVD style format?

  • j

    Stick to talking about fights not IT.

  • Swedish guy

    Definitely agree, FL, there’ll be a few years now of these two disc types battling it out, just to realize they’ve been beaten to it by a small, fast, secure way of storing data: flash memory. Hell, even new laptops don’t contain optical drives, and they’re getting rid of the harddrives as well, all because of flash memory.

  • pauli

    actually, fl, while you might not get herpes from a bluray player, a proprietary std IS part of sony’s latest copy protection scheme.

  • pauli

    oh, and the eula has GREAT tits.

  • kermit.01

    I’m sure the scratching argument was the same arguement made by lovers of VHS when DVD’s first made an apperance.

    While there are tons of other ways of getting your movies, On demand Cable, Tivo, Ect.. People will always want a way to securely backup and save data. If someone wants to purchase a movie they are still more likely to pay for the DVD than the download. I’d sooner buy the dvd and rip it to my ZUNE than just buy the download and put it on my zune. Its nice to know that no matter what happens to my computer my movie collection is safe and sound. Now I’ve got several hundered movies on my computers. I have a centeral backup server that makes backups of the 4 computers that get get used daily and it even mirrors my network storage boxes.

    Even with all that and 4 tera bytes of space I still burn the movies I want to keep DVD.

    As for Flash Media replacing Harddrives.. While some companies are perducing small laptops with only flash memory and no harddrives, the largest I’ve seen is around 8 gig of storage. While thats nice and all I think it’ll be 20 years before I can have 4 terabytes of storage in Flash format.

  • Jeremy (not that Jeremy)

    It won’t be 20 years, in the space of just a couple years we’ve gone from 32meg usb pen drives being fifty bucks to them being four 512meg drives to a pack for ten bucks, sold in the register line at your local grocery store or Target.

    The current plan isn’t for all flash systems in the immediate future though, it’s for combined flash/hard disk where you can optimize access times for large and small files, and implement some sweet power saving options.

    I have an HD-DVD player, I paid two hundred for it, and I probably overpaid by thirty or forty bucks (I got it just before Thanksgiving instead of waiting for the sales of death). The four hundred plus players you’re thinking of are the BluRay ones (the cheapest of which is a PS3, which happens to be the type of PS3 that has absolutely no PS2 backward compatibility…).

    I’ve got a terrabyte of attached storage on my system at home, and I’m looking to swap all of that over to Home Server as the next upgrade. I’m going thin client all the way from here out. No reason to have a loud monster system on my desktop at this point, when I can have a loud monster system sitting in my closet instead.

  • Aaron

    Blu Ray disks are far more resistant to scratching than DVDs due to a special coating:

    And flash media is several orders of magnitude more expensive than Blu Ray or HD DVD storage- a cheap 16GB solid state drive costs $179 compared to as little as $15 for a 25 GB Blu Ray blank. Even traditional hard drives are more expensive per unit of storage. Yes, new ultraportable laptops are going to use flash hard drives and lack optical drives, but that’s due to size, power consumption and mobility considerations- desktop computers and larger laptops are going to get standard Blu Ray or HD DVD burners long before they get flash hard drives. Prices on Blu Ray and HD DVD players are falling far faster than the price of flash media, so the time when high def movies come on flash drives instead of optical media is a long way off.

  • Fatal Error

    psst…Make the title say “chooses”…I don’t want Sam Caplan or Kid Nate making fun of you.

  • dandeman

    I agree, people want to see their movies or sports in HD either 720P or 1080P. Attempting to download an HD 8 hour HDDVD will take hours on hours, which is why when things are compressed and transferred a lot is lost in the process. So HD transfer is a long way off, probably 5 to 7 years for mass consumption at a reasonable download speed and quality.

  • Foreskin Face Pete

    you bastards. i’m going away again.

  • Popetastic

    As long as your accepting grammar and spelling suggestions, use the word “medium” instead of “media” in this case.

    No one’s going to replace their entire DVD collection with Blu-Ray or HD DVD. Not yet, anyway.

  • Swedish guy

    OMGWTFBBQ!!1! Nerd flamewars FTW!!!

  • andres

    Blu rays don’t scratch yeaa they would be the way rto go but now I can download ufc fights of xboxlive so it makes everything a lot easier for me ahhaahahahaha

  • Xavier

    I have the HD-DVD add-on for the 360 and a PS3, so I can play either. I prefer HD-DVD. I disagree that “both formats suck blah blah blah”, I can’t even watch regular DVD’s anymore, upscaled or not. The whole “this stuff sucks” is the typical refrain of someone too poor to try them out on a nice TV. I know, because it’s the same shit I said before I got a nice TV and both media formats.

    That said, HD-DVD is to me, superior. They have a more polished spec-set, very evident from Blu-Ray finally getting picture in picture video with profile 1.1 whereas HD-DVD has had it since launch.

    If you’re actually into movies, putting together either of these formats with an HDTV will definitely make a believer out of you. Kudos to the UFC for picking a format, and hopefully they make a bigger push to make all carriers pick up an HD-PPV channel so I can order their fucking events in HD, goddammit.

  • Jeremy (not that Jeremy)

    I’m definitely on the high def bandwagon as well, btw. DVDs do not cut it anymore, unless I’m transferring the content to a portable device. On even a mid grade HDTV, the artifacting from their heavy compression and low resolution (you get artifacts from scaling up as well, even with a great scaler) comes out.

    Plus, I can buy HD-DVDs used (or sometimes new) for like 12 to 15 bucks…that’s the same price as a catalog DVD new, so why would I buy DVDs? I’m also a bad boy when it comes to buying media, so I’ve already got a collection of about 40 discs.

    They also blow away cable/satellite/FIOS HD signals…there’s really no comparison watching a film on HD-DVD versus watching it on Universal HD or HDNet Movies. IMHO, worth it. If you’re not into it, that’s alright.

  • Xavier

    F buying them, Netflix stocks both Blu-Ray and HD-DVD. :)

    Yeah, the discs are well better than the HD Cable and Satellites put out. No doubt. There’s no comparison. I actually prefer them to going to the movies unless it’s an IMAX release (caught “I Am Legend” on IMAX yesterday, awesome new Batman trailer before it that’s worth seeing).

  • jjdnb

    OMG that is some of the dumbest shit i’ve ever heard.
    Are you still using cassets and vinyl records?
    Are you still using VHS or Beta?
    Do you have a tape deck in your car?

    Oh yeah lets not bother with new technology like blu-ray or HD DVD cuz its gonna blow over in a few years..yeah why use computers, when in a few years we’ll get faster computers but you cant get them then either cuz a few years after that we’ll get even betters ones.
    Your a stupid fuck and this article really shows it in its clearest form
    stupid old fuck

  • fightlinker

    No, more like it’s a flawed technology. Let’s all remember this post a year and a half from now and see how well the new format discs you bought today work then. As I said, I bet you’ll be seeing it all go digital. But that’s just me. You’re still free to do whatever you want. OR ARE YOU??????????

  • Xavier

    A year and a half from now? I’ll take you up on that, people aren’t going to be wanting to download 40gigs of movie onto their computer and then stream it to their TV. Hell, the average consumer still can’t figure out that they need an HD “source” to take advantage of their HDTV yet, let alone how to set up a personal media server and download 40gigs to watch one movie.

    You overestimate the intelligence of the average consumer, homeslice. “Disc go into tray, tray go into TV” is about as complicated as 90% of consumers get.

    People were saying that digital distribution would be the future of PC games two years ago too, and it’s just not come to pass. Too many issues with copy protection, patches, and data corruption.

    It’ll be five years at best before digital distribution is even a blip on the mass consumer radar, ten years before it’ll replace disc-based media. People are just too dumb.

  • vess

    Until fiber becomes prevalent, digital distribution is a non-starter especially for HD video. Maybe I am old school, but I still prefer physical media. I like looking at the covers which bring back memories of the UFC events.

    As to format choice, just give me a winner.

  • Tommy

    Man I got them both but if I had to pick one it would be HD. Sony and Toshiba are basically the same company and just chose to war over format. Sony has never won this war. In fact Sony was betamax. This makes their fourth attempt and it will fail as well. In their foolishness Sony or blu-ray chooses companies instead of studios to push their brand. For example blockbusters over dreamworks. Your wrong though FL. HD is the future nomatter what format wins. If you pay for a high def tv, why watch standerd def material? It’s a waste of money. There is no reason to replace your old dvd’s with upconvert players but why buy a new movie on old stuff? Would you go buy The Kingdom on VHS?

  • Tommy

    I’ll take that bet as well. People don’t break what they’re used to. Building a dvd library is something people like to do and it does beat the theaters if you spend the money. Oh and if we bet it needs to be cash this time.

  • Jeremy (not that Jeremy)

    Digital distribution is working with PC games, to a point. The recent retail releases of Crysis and Unreal Tournament III kind of make the case. They both sold about, or less than 100k copies. That’s anemic.

    Meanwhile, the scuttlebutt is that both of them are doing insane numbers on the torrent sites.

    Valve on the other hand is all digital distribution on PC (they have retail boxes, but you still have to validate the copy against Steam to make it work). Their sell rates are much higher both digitally and in retail. The problem has been doing things in a way that gives users the experience that they want at a price they are willing to pay, and at the same time manages to defeat piracy well enough that people are willing to pay.

    DD has also made tremendous strides on the consoles in the last 24 months as well, with all three major consoles on the bandwagon with last gen games (well, PS1 in the case of PS3, and N64 for Wii) downloadable to your system and current small session games (well, not on Wii, but it’s coming) downloadable too.

    Retailers are of course throwing a fit about it, which is delaying things quite a bit. But early adopting gamers are out on the bleeding edge as far as tech goes, so they’re more likely to have high speed internet access, the familiarity with downloading games to their computers already, and the willingness to buy a product that doesn’t come in a box.

    Unless something very significant happens in the next couple months, both BluRay and HD-DVD will be around at the end of this year. The real battle hasn’t even begun yet because neither platform has reached critical mass yet. But it’s coming, and I think that the analog broadcast shutdown that’s about to happen is going to hasten that process.

    Then again, I’m one of those people who has a combo SACD/DVD Audio player. I prefer DVD-Audio, but both formats are essentially dead now, sadly.