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Bigfoot Silva’s manager Alex Davis has some interesting thoughts regarding his client’s loss to Cain Velasquez. Not only does he think the thunder elbows Cain landed that sliced Bigfoot up were ‘lucky’, he thinks they should be illegal too:

The problem with this particular cut was not the size or anything, but the profuse bleeding into Bigfoot’s eyes. This is not an excuse, it is a fact. I am not here saying that wasn’t for the cut , Bigfoot would have won, nor I am making an excuse. What I am saying, again, is a fact. Had not been the cut, the fight most probably would have gone on, who knows what the outcome might have been, maybe Cain would have won anyways, maybe not. I also think that elbows on the ground should not be allowed. For the most part, they cause cuts, which are different then Kos, Tkos or Subs. They also tend to make a bloody mess, sometimes from relatively minor damage, and this does not help MMA as it tends to alienate many people to the sport. I didn’t mean in no way to diminish Cain’s victory, or make an excuse for Bigfoot’s defeat, but simply state a fact that myself, and anyone else who watched the fight, witnessed.

Call me crazy, but I always thought the whole point of ‘Ultimate’ fighting was to keep the rules to a minimum so the fighting is as legit as possible. Sure, we’ve had to add a couple restrictions in there so heads arent getting stomped through like over-ripe watermelons, but overall the less rules the better.

  • Reverend Clint

    let me guess this whiney fag and his mutant friend also want punching and kicking outlawed. it will just boil down to who looks the meanest. Clearly these guys are just more Brazilians who cry about everything. Go back and worship your jungle gods of pussiness.

  • Remico

    Stop being assholes and realize he has a point.

    Elbows on the ground are just ungentlemanly. Do you have any idea the type of damage someone could do with elbows on the ground in the heavyweight division specifically if they also happened to have a 30-40lb weight advantage as well?

  • Reverend Clint

    dont fight guys who have a 30-40 lbs advantage

  • Remico

    i don’t know how I could’ve made that any more obvious

  • mobius

    once there’s enough HWs it’ll make sense to have a 230/235 cruiserweight division.

  • DJ ThunderElbows

    Look everyone, as the most unbiased person here I’m gonna lay down the final word on this – Defend elbows and you won’t get cut by elbows.  Don’t’ use a sloppy guard that isn’t controlling your opponent’s arms and/or posture.

    But we definitely have to ban black guys throwing overhand rights.  Not making excuses, just stating a fact.

  • Psyko TJ

    In other news, Alex Davis is calling for a ban of any sort of strike that can cause a cut.

  • Blackula Jonez

    I am not going to try to make excuses for my clients loss or diminish Cain’s victory but…here are excuses for my clients loss that calls into question the validity of Cain’s victory.

    Who gives a shit about elbows, I am still waiting for the day when knees are allowed in the UFC/Unified Rules. That rule change will split the timeline of the sport similar to the birth of a certain magical hebrew character.

  • Blackula Jonez

    Knees to the head and body of a downed opponent to be specific.

    Crom and the other Gods of Violence weep whenever a guy drops to a 3 point stance to defend themselves instead of ACTUALLY DEFENDING THEMSELVES!!!

  • kwagnuth

    Yeah knees to the head would definately be a game changer. Kneeing a downed opponent until he is unconciouss is fuckin awsome. I kneed a guy in the face when he was down once and it was fuckin sweet.

  • #1Jackal

    We see this all of the time.  BJ Penn said if Hughes didnt crack his ribs, the fight would have turned out different.  

    If Patrick Cote would not have blown out his knee with Anderson Silva the fight would have been different.
    Its a fight, the purpose of it is to do damage to your opponent in order to win

  • ButtHorn

    Wow!

    What a loser says is really interesting!

    (Not bigfoot, theres no shame in a loss to the second best back on his feet. But boohoo for the loser barnacle!)

  • http://www.mattpolly.com matthewpolly

    Unlike my more hardcore brethren above, I happen to agree there should be a no elbow rule in the unifieds, specifically no elbows to a downed opponent. Elbows are illegal in amateur fights; they were illegal in the IFL. They are allowed in the unified rules if they are not 12-6. In general, yes, the less rules the better. But elbow strikes primary purpose is to cause cuts to cause the doctor stoppages, not to cause TKOs, which I believe makes the sport less competitive rather than more so. Also I was watching the Big Foot fight with a friend who I had been trying to convince that MMA is a sophisticated, technical sport. I lost that argument when he saw the cage get painted red.

  • Blackula Jonez

    Take out elbows and bring in the knees. I am fine with that.

  • http://www.mattpolly.com matthewpolly

    agreed. i don’t see why there is a problem with knees to the head on the ground. it’s a knock out not a cutting technique like elbows and headbutts.

  • OlyReigns

    Yes knees and kicks  to a grounded opponent. I would much rather have both those then elbows on the ground. Elbows standing however I am completely fine with.

  • noiseless

    take out elbows. and lets all hope for nothing but decisions. purrleash.

  • ButtHorn

    “|Take out elbows and bring in the knees. I am fine with that.”

    Meh!

    That you would say that,

    instead of add knees, like a normal person would say,

    proves to me that you are a fruitcake fanboy!

    Like that gosh darn weirdo pollywolly…

  • noiseless

    hahah wolly

  • ButtHorn

    Eh…
     to expand, he’s a smart guy!

    But nowhere as smart as he thinks he is!

  • ButtHorn

    He knows aboot trad martial arts!

    But he swears he knows aboot MMA….

  • drunkenjunk

    screw everybody that wants to get rid of bows. If you have a problem with it defend it. How many fights do you really see stopped from cuts?

  • ButtHorn

    ^^
    Truth be told, its not like its happening to everybody!

    At least nobody who isn’t begging for it?!

    <rolleyes>

  • iamphoenix

    don’t get elbowed.

  • http://www.gamecritics.com GameCritics

    Saying we should ban elbows because it causes cuts is like saying we should ban wrestling because it causes boredom.

  • Letibleu

    no elbows on the ground. fine. gimme knees on the ground though. those finish fights.

  • ButtHorn

    I might be mistaken (I usually am), but I seem to recall Velasquez finishing Bigfoot with elbows.

    It was probably just a fever dream.

  • ButtHorn

    I feel so guilty now (and I am) for yelling at pollywolly.

    I apologize Ryan.

  • http://www.mattpolly.com matthewpolly

    Come on guys, don’t be mean to pollywolly. he’s just a silly willy bear who has nightmares about grounded elbows.

  • G Funk

    I wonder if BigFoot’s linguica is proportioned with his body?

  • Nepal

    As much as I don’t want extra rules, I’m ok with banning elbows on the ground for 2 reasons.

    1. I don’t like fights getting stopped due to cuts.

    2. and this is the bigger one for me. There isn’t a high level of skill in elbowing compared to other techniques. I would way rather the guy on the top be forced to use more skill like having to go for subs to finish the fight or having a higher level of G’n’P. I’d like the guy on the bottom be able have more chance to fight back rather than having to defend elbows.

  • noiseless

    is that gay slur for spic penis, funk?? if so yeah. is he hung like me?

  • Reverend Clint

    knees to the dick!

  • noiseless

    know what? fuck it, ban FIGHTING

  • DJ ThunderElbows

    There isn’t a high level of skill in elbowing compared to other
    techniques. I would way rather the guy on the top be forced to use more
    skill like having to go for subs to finish the fight or having a higher
    level of G’n’P.

    Of course, that’s why everyone gets knockouts easily with elbows.  We should just focus on something that needs to be artificially enhanced to be viable like throwing tiny bones at an opponents largest bone surface.

    Stop being barbarians and control your shrieking monkey response to the color red.  Stop making the sport look bad.

    Thank you.

  • drunkenjunk

    fuck you nepal, how many fights can you name in the last 3 years that were stopped by cuts w/o looking it up? Maybe 2 or 3. Shut the fuck up about fights being stopped from cuts in it doesn’t happen that often. Quit agreeing w/ the big retard. He lost, Cain would of smashed his face in regardless of elbows.

  • drunkenjunk

    also the only time I understand not allowing elbows is when Bellator does it for most of their tournament bouts. They don’t want guys w/ medical suspensions from cuts, when they have a month turnaround for their next fight. 

  • Nepal

    We could have headbutts too.  I don’t want them because there is no skill involved.  Same with elbows on the ground.  Fucks the fight up.  Allows technique-less fighters to win (more often than I would like).

    I think Cain would beat Bigfoot no matter what but we really don’t know.  Take away elbows, that would have been a way better fight.

  • Nepal

    To Drunkenjunk:  I actually agree with you that there are not too many fights stopped by cuts, they exist but happen in the UFC only a few times per year.  That is not my big problem with elbows.  My (much) bigger issue is that it takes away from the quality of the fight.  Less technique is used.

    Even tho cuts don’t affect many fights in percentage terms, the Cain vs. Bigfoot fight is just recent in our minds and I feel that fight got taken from me.  Cain would have won most likely but we didn’t get to see the fight!!!!  All we saw was the elbows and blood.

    No elbows (on the ground) = more technique and therefore better fights.  Same issue with head butts.  They end fights but don’t create a more exciting fight.

  • frickshun

    I like elbows. Take them away & Jon Jones might end up like Rick Story (1st fight on some fucking FUEL prelims….holy shit!!).

    Polly–>your biggest mistake was inviting some non-mma fan loser to watch the fights instead of me!! I would have brought beer, guac & chips. We could have spooned from Facebook fights through to the main event!! I’m the big spoon of course.

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