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What Crocop and Mir were talking about, Willis

Crocop is back in Croatia and aside from apologizing to the press for his performance (in retrospect this card will be known as UFC 119: We’re Sorry) he also told them what he and Frank Mir were talking about against the cage before he got knocked out. According to Mirko, the conversation went something like this:

CroCop: Let me go, lets go to the centre and fight
Mir: Let’s go to the mat
CroCop: OK – if I’m on top
Mir: We’ll stay in the clinch

Which means the whole thing was not much different from Koscheck / Daley’s “Get up and let’s fight” exchange. Crocop has a habit of chit-chatting with his opponents in the cage – most recently he did it with Pat Barry too. Personally I’m more of a fists do the talking type guy, but let’s not blow this out of proportion. Some are suggesting a fix and then there’s that sad, sad group of people who take every wonky moment and try to weave it into a reality where MMA is fake. Those people should probably take their medication.

  • Reverend Clint

    I think middleeasy’s rumor was much funnier and not as lame as this reality

  • frickshun

    2 professional fighters should NOT be chit-chatting during the fight. I don’t care if Cro Cop said “Your clinch is gentler than the time I raped your mother” & Murr said “I’m awarding you my exclusive blackbelt in douchebag”.

  • dawgbone

    ^ Why not?

    Athletes in all sports talk to each other in the middle of competition.

  • P W

    At least it’s a step in the right direction for Cro Cop. His last fight included a lot of high fiveing and hugging.

  • frickshun

    Dawgbone–>do you seriously believe you can perform @ your best while you’re cracking jokes to your opponent? That might work in fucking baseball (or WOW, for you) but in a sport where the idea is to render your opponent unconscious……THAT’S FUCKING RUH-TARD!!

  • dawgbone

    I’m curious as to why you wouldn’t be able to? Does talking prevent you from punching someone? Are you that incapable of basic human multitasking that this seems far-fetched and unattainable?

    Guys have trash talked and showboated in fighting since the day before forever… it’s nothing new.

  • frickshun

    Stick to fantasy league competition….

  • Reverend Clint

    its fine if a fighter says “hey sorry for kicking you in the sack” or “come get some” if the other guy is going all damian maia and butt scoots.

    but going over strategy with you opponent or saying hey wanna take this to the ground is pretty close to staging a fight.

    by the way all other sports dont count in your argument except for combat sports because they are not one on one. Trash talking is one thing but outright planning where the fight goes is stupid. there is a reason guys are discouraged from speaking to each other in the cage/ring.

  • SST

    Too bad he didn’t say, “I’m gonna fuck your wife in the ass!” Maybe we would of saw fight.

  • Omomatta

    I think we all know that trash talking in a foreign language never really works out well.

    The more guys hug it out in the ring….the more and more “business like” things seem to get. I agree that when you’re pals you can lose some intensity and desire. Mirko’s been around the fucking block…’s just another day at the office. He’s ready to go.

    As for Mir, fuck…..he just likes to hear himself talk.

  • Symbul

    “but going over strategy with you opponent or saying hey wanna take this to the ground is pretty close to staging a fight.”

    Still better than the Barry hug.

    I agree that it’s like watching Pro Wrestling. I actually kinda hate it when guys have this unspoken (or otherwise) agreement to stand and throw leather, a la Serra-Lytle. Just try to win the fucking fight. Don’t get your ass kicked in the name of bad kickboxing.

  • Komodo

    Is there an actual rule for it?
    I can’t recall specific fights, but I know there have been a few where I’m sure I heard the ref get on the fighter(s) for talking.

  • Tanhauser

    I think it’s HILLLLLLLLARIOUS that people are freaking out over this fight.

    Frank Mir just got brutally knocked out by a man ape, and Cro-cop is cro-cop coming in on short notice.

    What the fuck did you expect?

    This is almost as much news as Cro-cop getting poked in the eye.

  • P W

    “Is there an actual rule for it?”

    Abusive language is forbidden. I guess what constitutes “abusive” is up to the ref to decide.

  • dawgbone

    I don’t think it’s strategy at all they were talking about, but more gamesmanship.

    If they were talking strategy they would have actually done it. Instead I think it was just in fight banter.

    If they had actually gone to the ground and Cro cop was on top after he suggests they do it, that would be different. That’s not what happened. They were just talking shit to each other. Mir knew Cro Cop wouldn’t just go to the ground. He also knew that he certainly wouldn’t go to the ground if he had to be on the bottom. It was an empty question and did nothing to change the fight.

  • Komodo

    Thanks P W.

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